Monday, May 14, 2012

I have to watch my step!



This publicity process is going to be very hard for me. We had media training and they told us that we can't respond to every attack that people will make against us. You know how hard I find that to be. I love a good blog war. I take no prisoners. But I can't indulge myself because it could hurt the show and the product we are promoting.

For example there is site called Refinery 29 which did a post about the store. It was very positive and some of the comments were too. But there were a few that were not and I gave a few gentle love taps. Then this guy posted this comment:

stopkidding 2 comments
There is a difference between being 'plus size' and boarder line obese. One of the problems with WNTW is that they insist upon dressing very large women in things they should not be wearing, such as sleveless tops,skirts above the knee, and clingy fabrics. Just because it comes in a large size, does not mean one should be wearing it. At least in the photo above, the print is somewhat slimming, but more importantly, the large knees, large arms and nauseating cleavage are covered. The woman looks stylish without being a spectacle. Yes, designers should be more mindful of large women because we have become a country of lazy over-eaters, not to mention we do not like to be held accountable for anything, so that is why we hear excuse after excuse for overweight and obesity. That is why there is such a push to make fat the new thin. However, large women--and men for that matter--have to cover up fatty, large, flabby arms, stomachs, thighs, etc. Large, flat knees should be covered, too, as none of these attributes are flattering, and they will all draw negative attention, so the beautiful clothes will be overlooked. There is a certain size, however, where nothing will be flattering and nothing will fit right regardless of who designs it. That is not the fault of the designer or manufacturer. That is the fault of the person. It is a little tiring seeing large women on all of these shows being patronized and told that they can dress in the same things that small women wear as long as it makes them feel good. It is not always about feeling good. It is about facing the truth and wearing what is appropriate.

So I want to go in there and smack him around a little. But I can't. The publicity people would shit themselves and Stacy would get really mad. She says to let it roll our back and ignore it. Not to fight. Of course that's what everybody said about the show runner and that was fucked up. So I am going to do a modified limited hang out on it. I will not directly confront people but I will sock puppet it up and fuck up assholes like this douche. It is funny that he praises our clothes while attacking women who are plus. It is obvious he hates women. Or his life. Or his mother.

And if anyone wants to go give people like that a couple of shots to gin up controvesy and hits I would like that just fine.

We are going to do this undercover of the night.

65 comments:

Chip S. said...

Obviously a liberal dipshit under the influence of Michelle O, but I don't see any need to reply.

He self-identifies as an asshole.

ndspinelli said...

We'll call you sub rosa.

Chip S. said...

Don't use a sockpuppet, Troop. If you get traced back, it could be embarrassing to the show.

Let spinelli handle it.

Trooper York said...

I don't know Chip. I am pretty good at being a sockpuppet.

Nobody really knows that I am Allie.

Titus said...

I posted something on there.

I wanted to end it with tits but I thought it might get deleted.

I hate that tits could cause a deletion.

Do you all know which posting was mine?

tits.

chickelit said...

Trooper York said...
I don't know Chip. I am pretty good at being a sockpuppet.

Nobody really knows that I am Allie.


You had me going with the Carol Herman schtick.

Chip S. said...

No, Titus, but I'm impressed that you commented there over 4 days ago.

Chip S. said...

Titus--Cambridge 69? Really?

I thought you didn't eat hog.

Anonymous said...

I am Trooper's feminine side. I like to wear pointy bras and garder belts. I run my hands over my freshly shaven legs sheathed in silk stockings.....

ndspinelli said...

I think Allie works one of those 900 numbers, talking dirty to lonely men.

And of course, as ChipS says, I'll handle an assignment for you. Gratis.

ndspinelli said...

I have several aliases w/ good cover.

Darcy said...

I'd have a hard time biting my tongue, too.

Dust Bunny Queen said...

Nobody really knows that I am Allie.

Wow, and here I thought you were Audie Murphy's Mom. That would be some masterful sock puppetry if you really were Allie!

Chip is right. Don't jeopardize your show and get your wife terminally pissed at you.

Perhaps I should break out my Geetz Romo identity. I need to learn to chatter more hep patter.

Anonymous said...

He is me , I am him, we are the Walrus, coo coo cachoo.

ricpic said...

The dresses I've seen on your site aren't "daring" - in the sense of plunging necklines or short skirts or even sleeveless - so I don't know what this guy's complaining about. I mean there may be some revealing stuff but for the most part your stock is quite tame...but not too tame...whew, it's like walking a tightrope to say just. the right. thing. I was a paisley tie guy once so I do like your paisley print dresses.

Titus said...

cambridge69 was me.

tits.

I think your wife is fucking hot and I can tell she is really fun. She has good karma.

tits.

rcocean said...

I was tempted to leave a comment. Seriously, what's the connection between wearing clothes that make you feel good and health issues?

I guess everyone who doesn't look like Brad Pitt or Megan Fox should just stay home or wear a potato sack.

MamaM said...

The pair of "shoulds" early in the paragraph flash like beacons warning of control issues, along with the parent voice. At least no one has yet managed to sneak in a dig about how ashamed they felt with their plus sized mother.

I don't see the value of using sock puppets to respond. At best they stir up energy and drama. Unfortunately, assholes and abusers tend to use what comes back at them to shape shift into more of the same.

The commenters I most appreciate are the ones who reveal a spark of humor and trustworthy consistency. The answers posted by Lee Lee's Husband sound clear, neutral and sincere.

Michael Haz said...

One of the few worthwhile things I learned in college came from, of all people, a Socioligy professor, one night when I was tending bar and she was getting hammered.

We were talking (actually, she was talking and I was listening to her talk in hopes of earing a bigger tip) about life and work. She said "I'll tell you all you need to know about sociology and life in general."

Shoot, I was nineteen, drunk twenty-four year olds seemed smart, so I said "What's that?"

"When you scrape away all the bs, there are basically only two groups of people in the world: the people you love and assholes. Take care of one group, ignore the other and you'll be happy."

"Heavy, man", I said, staring into her (parts of body that weren't her eyes) "thanks!"

Turned out that the brief lesson endured to this day.

Igonore the idiots who post shit about the store. They aren't your customers, and never will be. They're simply jealous. And assholes.

Anonymous said...

MamaM, my comment about a child being momentarily ashamed of her overweight mother was not a dig. That was pretty low of you, I'm not surprised though.

I was expressing, moreso, the shame felt by the child of herself. But either you are insufficiently sensitive, or you chose to ignore my sentiment for other purposes, that one could only fathom if they knew who you really were underneath your MamaM persona.

Michael, excellent point.

MamaM said...

MamaM, my comment about a child being momentarily ashamed of her overweight mother was not a dig.

To my ears, it sounded odd. Shame is a learned response. Young children, in my experience, are rarely ashamed of their parents. They will notice oddities and differences in others as a matter of observation, curiosity and interest, but do not move to shame unless they have previously been shamed themselves by someone with power over them. Children tend to protect, defend and stand by those who love and care for them, because they have no other way to survive. Teens are another matter, as they are in a process of separation.

Anonymous said...

MamaM, expert in all matters, now child psychology.

When I spoke a while back about my love and respect for my husband, you made some snarky comment about my "saintly husband".

I think perhaps some people are NEVER ashamed of themselves. What does that say about their psyche?

Chip S. said...

Children tend to protect, defend and stand by those who love and care for them...

MamaM, you've jogged my memory of the time I started brawling with my best friend at age 8 when he made fun of my grandma's weight. Literally a street fight.

Then we shrugged it off and were best buds again. But he never said shit about her ever again.

MamaM said...

MamaM, expert in all matters, now child psychology.

When I spoke a while back about my love and respect for my husband, you made some snarky comment about my "saintly husband".

I think perhaps some people are NEVER ashamed of themselves. What does that say about their psyche?

May 15, 2012 12:06 PM


If you want to shame me AllieOop, then getting the quote right would be a good start. I believe I said we could "talk about sainted husbands" after I took the Midol you recommended as an expert nurse who knew what I needed.

Darcy said...

Oh, for heaven's sakes. And Allie: Ignore. It loves the game.

Anonymous said...

Darcy, yep.

Chip S. said...

OK, OK, ladies. I'm requesting that you settle this gypsy style. And video it.

Speaking of From Russia With Love, I'm gonna go back to the thread about postwar Russian transportation. That was fun--and educational, too!

chickelit said...

...and there's even some evil mothers
Well they're gonna tell you that everything is just dirt
you know that women never really faint
and that villians always blink their eyes
that children are the only ones who blush
and that life is just to die
But anyone who ever had a heart
they wouldn't turn around and break it
and anyone who ever played a part
They wouldn't turn around and hate it

Sweet Jane, Sweet Sweet Jane


I think Lou Reed was full of shit.

Darcy said...

LOL, Chip. But ladies only.

BJM said...

Hey Troop, have you seen this?

Your show is going to be sooo much better than what has become before.

chickelit said...

Steppenwolf For Ladies Only

(watch through at least the first minute and half)

Darcy said...

Cool, Bruce. I think Steppenwolf was one of the coolest band names ever.

chickelit said...

An older guy down the street got us into Steppenwolf. Must have been late 60's early 70's. He was in high school and drove a sooped-up something or other and blared Steppenwolf on his 8 track.

chickelit said...

Steppenwolf was made for 8 tracks and muscle cars (and, motorcycles of course. But I couldn't see Easy Rider then and had to just read the parody in Mad Magazine.

BJM said...

@Chickie
I think Lou Reed was full of shit.

In those days everyone was full of shit. Although Joplin was giving head on an unmade bed, so there was that. ;^)

chickelit said...

A man like that's like an unmade bed
Stained eyes searching for another way out...




Suckered by his fatal charm, oh girl
It's time we get away

The Dude said...

We thought they were posers and wanna-bes, called them "Steppenshit". For Christ's sake, they were Canadian!

Born to Be Wild is a nice song. My personal theme song is Born to Be Mild.

chickelit said...

John Kay may be Canadian but he was originally Prussian. His father was killed by Russians and he fled with his mother to Western Germany before the Iron Curtain closed off the east.

Kay is still alive and still leads the band. I found a very recent interview with him here

Anonymous said...

Chickie, a lot of ethnic Germans from Eastern Europe emigrated to Canada. I've got many relatives almost all from my mother's side, went to Canada. They live in Ontario. I used to spend a month every summer with the Canadian relatives.

Only two aunts, uncles and their children emigrated to Germany. Some went to Australia and even one to South America. The two relatives that remained in Croatia didn't survive, we suspect they died in work camp.

We were lucky to have had an uncle of my fathers, that emigrated to America before WW2. He sponsered my family, without his help my family would've been stuck in Austria even longer. My parents fled Croatia in 1944, October with he retreating German Army.

All the farms and houses were lost to the communists who gave them to the locals.

Anonymous said...

Photos of Camp Haid, in Ansfelden Austria, where my family lived for several years

Anonymous said...

My apologies to those that may find this boring.

chickelit said...

All the farms and houses were lost to the communists who gave them to the locals.

And still you're a commie! :)

My wife's family came from Holland via Canada where she was born (Ontario). It was easier for Europeans to come to Canada first, especially after 1965, when Congress started to tweak the ethnicity of immigration.

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The Dude said...

Wisconsin will do communism correctly, not like every other example of communism, ever...

Anonymous said...

Haha.

chickelit said...

Hell, Milwaukee did Socialism right, right Allie?

Anonymous said...

Mayor Ziegler? I think that was his name, befor my time, but I think he was quite popular.

Chip S. said...

Yeah, the unemployment rate's under 10.5%.

Anonymous said...

Mayor Zeidler, a socialist.

Chip S. said...

The early socialists are always popular; they're the ones carving the goose.

The poor saps who come later are the ones who run out of golden eggs.

chickelit said...

Sewer Socialism

chickelit said...

Milwaukee and Madison have been feuding over Socialism vs. Progressivism for quite a while: link

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Anonymous said...

The first Milwaukee Mayor I remember was Mayor Meier, he was the singing Mayor. He lived next door to my aunt and uncle, who lived only a few jblocks away. When I went to visit my cousin, we on occasion would be invited in the Mayor's house for cookies and milk, by his wife.

Anonymous said...

Ach du Lieber!

Anonymous said...

Henry Maier.

chickelit said...

I remember him. He started Summerfest didn't he?

chickelit said...

I remember him. He started Summerfest didn't he?

chickelit said...

duplicity

blake said...

I was gonna say that Trooper, you're the worst sock-puppeteer ever, but one never knows. I know you put up a really obvious sock puppet (named after a John Wayne character no less) a few years ago at Althouse and were instantly recognizable--

--but that presumes that you haven't snuck a bunch of others past me, which one can't do.

In fact, a master sock puppeteer might make a bad puppet to throw peo--oh, no, I've gone crosseyed.

blake said...

Srsly, though: Don't.

You can be traced. I've traced people *kaff*at Althouse, and Blogger has poor tools. On my own websites, I could nail people within seconds.

Evi L. Bloggerlady said...

If you need a cow to go running through a China shop...I think I know one who is available.

Evi L. Bloggerlady said...

I am available as a proxy.