Monday, January 16, 2012

A new candidate for the Overrated Hall of Fame!


Our good friend and favorite knucklehead ndspinelli had this to say about our comments about Aaron Rodgers:

ndspinelli said...
Let me first respond to Trooper's polemic about Aaron Rodgers. You must understand when you accuse Rodgers of being s one trick pony that THIS IS HIS 4TH FUCKING YEAR AS STARTER. Now, he may well not earn another title w/ the vagaries of pro football..injuries, team demise, etc. When his career is over you can then take that shot if you wish. However, he's only 28!


Dude don't get your panties in a twist. All I am trying to say is that Aaron Rodgers is way overrated. He has some gaudy stats. So did the ultimate failure Dan Marino. And Dan Fouts. And lots of other guys who put up big numbers but never won anything.

Aaron Rodgers won one Super Bowl. Just one. One more than Dan Marino. You can get to the Hall of Fame with a bunch of hollow statistics. If you don't believe me you can ask Ted Williams disembodied head about that.

I hear many douchenozzles rank on Derek Jeter who has five championship rings. That's right five. He was the leader and the heart and soul of five championship clubs.

Don't be like a Met fan or a Jet fan. Go out and put a couple of pelts on your pony first. Don't tell me that Aaron Rodgers is all that. He made a lot of mistakes in that game. He missed a lot of recievers. Watch the game films. They were throwing up their hands and cursing that they missed open recievers. He is way, way overrated.

We have a spot on the wall for him. Right between Woody Allen and Bob Dylan.

18 comments:

The Dude said...

Maybe he will get better once he grows up, right?

Pastafarian said...

Wait a minute -- you defend Derek Jeter in the same post in which you accuse someone of belonging to the Overrated Hall of Fame?

Really? Without a trace of irony?

$19 million per year for a guy with as much range as a toad stool, who averages 16 homers per year, and who gets on base but plugs them up with slower-than-molasses speed.

But, but, he's been on all those championship teams; as has the bat-boy. Is he one of the greatest bat-boys in the history of the game?

But Jeter's a winner, because he has a perpetual shit-eating smirk on his face. It can't be the all-star team the Yankees purchase every year around him, to explain all those championships.

But wait, I'm no expert. I've never played pro ball. Let's see what the people who have think:

http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/yankees/item_S8zzjnisobAjQuJUgvFfOK;jsessionid=5867457F13F490882487CB0D86B4658C

According to a few actual major leaguers (495 of them), the most over-rated guy in baseball is...Derek Jeter.

Derek Jeter is a charter member to the Overrated Hall of Fame. He has his own wing in the Hall. They tried to put a giant bust of his misshapen head out in the parking lot, but they were served papers by Mars Candy Company for infringing on the Milk Dud copyright.

chickelit said...

I think Aaron Rodgers played a great game yesterday. He ran where others failed to. He threw inceptions but so did Elisha. It really wasn't Aaron Rodgers' fault that his receivers couldn't catch yesterday.

chickelit said...

The more I read about them, the more Elisha Manning and his dad sound like a pair of prima donnas. We should be glad NY is stuck with them.

Chip S. said...

Ted Williams???

It's hard to overrate a guy with a career OPS+ of 190. Yeah, I know: WS Rings. But the other players (esp. pitchers) on a team have a lot to say about that.

For comparison: Mantle 172, DiMaggio 155, Ruth 209(!!) in NY.

DiMaggio is surely in the conversation for the OHoF, tho.

ndspinelli said...

Trooper is just "buckn' up" and getting his "New Yaack" on. Firstly, I have not gotten into a swoon about Rodgers..the media has. I think he's potentially great and by any standard has had 2 great years consecutively. Those are the facts. Maybe he will be a Marino, BUT THE JURY IS STILL OUT. This is a marathon not a sprint.

Trooper is a classic NY myopic w/ a healthy dose of bullshit and bloviating. When they leave NY they are always telling you where they're from. If you're @ a crap or blackjack table in Vegas they always announce their presence verbally["Just flew in from NY"] and w/ their Yankee, Mets, Giants, Jets hats and jerseys. Don't ever go to New York/New York in Vegas unless you want to be overwhelmed w/ this pathology.

Every post you make like this one merely proves my case. I like you a lot Trooper York. You are like many of my family and friends back east. And, I call them on their horseshit just like I'm doing here. People stand naked in front of me. I see through shit. I've lived and worked in 3 time zones and my ability to read people has literally saved my life. On the subject of sports my friend you can be insufferable. I gave up being a diehard fan a long time ago. I love sports, particularly baseball. You're a Yankee fan. I'm a baseball fan. You're a Giants fan. I'm a Packer/football fan. NY fans are the most chauvanistic of any fandom, followed closely by Boston fans...thusly the conflict between the two. I lived in Ct. for 21 years and got to know both really well.

And, I'll say it again..I hope the Giants beat the Niners and I would like to see them win the Super Bowl since I really don't like Baltimore and I'm not a fan of New England. I'm getting back in touch w/ my youth and rooting for your team, Trooper. I don't know what the fuck else you want.

ricpic said...

People stand naked in front of me,
I see through their jot and tittle;
If I ruled the world everything would be
The truth and nothing but...well, just a little.

ndspinelli said...

I love Jeter. However, if you're going to go by World Series titles as a yardstick, Lonnie "Skates" Smith won 3 WS titles w/ 2 different teams. So, if that's the criteria he's better than Ted Williams, Mel Stottlemyre, Warren Spahn..how far do I need to go to call this standard horseshit?

ndspinelli said...

Pastafarian, You need to come out of your shell and express yourself. How do you really feel about Jeter?

blake said...

Dan Marino a failure?

He was in Ace Ventura 2! No man can be considered a failure who has been in an Ace Ventura movie. Well, except maybe Jim Carrey.

windbag said...

Whoa, there, before slagging on the Mets too much, remember they're currently tied for first.

I'll never understand why fans always have to use superlatives with every comment about their favorite team/musician/movie/food. Isn't it okay to say that so-and-so is a good/great QB w/o going straight to "THE BEST EVER!!!!!!"?

Dan Marino was okay. His Isotoner gloves commercials made me want to go buy some. Ted Williams was a Yankee. You can only go so far with that baggage.

Even quantifying our *opinions* still leaves enough wiggle room for argument. Who's the greatest pitcher ever? Babe Ruth, because he could also hit some? Nolan Ryan with seven(!!!) no-hitters?

Oh, and the Mets suck.

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ndspinelli said...

blake, I always appreciate your Hollywood perspective. What did you think of the Golden Globes? I thought it was Gervais-Lite. He sold out to get the gig, and toned it down big time, while still putting up the facade of edginess.

We enjoy being in San Diego for the Oscars. The LA Times coverage is superb, and being old fuckers, we can be in bed by 10! Our tradition is getting takeout Chinese and watching on the sofa.

The Dude said...

windbag wrote...

"Ted Williams was a Yankee. You can only go so far with that baggage."

Since Black Sunday I rarely comment on gross errors I see here - but come on - you cannot be serious, said in my best Johnny Mac voice. Care to take another shot at that comment?

windbag said...

@Sixty Grit: Cheap shots are my specialty. I dug deep for that one. Superficial, subjective, banal, and inane. The perfect combination when commenting on American League baseball. Plus, I get to piss off Red Sox and Yankee fans at the same time.

Oh, and the Mets suck.

The Dude said...

In that case, never mind.

windbag said...

I forgot juvenile.

blake said...

Nick,

I don't watch the awards shows any more. Just too high noise-to-signal ratio for my taste.

For all the (deserved) crud we give Hollywood, they're really good at a particular subset of tasks.

Award shows are not in that subset.

They should just turn the Golden Globes into a roast. I saw Gervais' previous years and it was pretty funny. He should've cranked it up to 11.