Boy I can be a jerk sometimes. I stuck my nose in a cesspool because I didn't like what was going on with references to another commenter's kid. But he assured me that he didn't take it personal so I just should have butted out.
I always get in trouble defending other people. That lunatic AllenS even thinks I am Ritmo because I didn't like when people were slapping him around when he wasn't around to defend himself.
I mean I was really only agreeing with Meade. He said the comments were cheap and nasty. And if anybody knows cheap and nasty it's Meade. Just sayn'
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I'm cheap, but I'm worth it.
I mean I was really only agreeing with Meade.
That should get you back in like Flynn!
DUDE!!!!!!!!!!
I really don't want to go where he has been.
Icky. Man. Icky to the max.
Just sayn'
That's pretty deep.
I was only speaking metaphorically.
I'm always out of the loop: I thought (based on writing style and general cluelessness) that Ritmo was MUL.
I'm always out of the loop: I thought (based on writing style and general cluelessness) that Ritmo was MUL.
I think MUL even announced when he was morphing into RITMO, which is more than what I did for poor chickenlittle, though my Twitter handle retains vestiges of it.
Ritmo is Montana Urban Legend. He announced it. It is just that AllenS didn't like that I defended Ritmo one time when he had left for the weekend and the evil blogger lady put up a thread just to trash him. I would have done that for anyone who posts here as a commentor, wherther I agree with them on politics or not. What is right is right and what is bullshit is bullshit.
So now if ever I drop a comment over there AllenS freaks out.
It's a shame because I used to think he was a decent guy but he is getting increasinly demented as the thread in question today shows.
It's a shame because I used to think he was a decent guy but he is getting increasinly demented as the thread in question today shows.
I think AllenS is a decent guy at heart. He's from Cheddarstan so, like Haz says, cut him a wedge of slack.
That being said, I think commenting too much Althouse has a way of screwing with some regular's minds (by regular, I mean somebody who comments on every single post, day in day out). Plenty of good decent people seem to burn out commenting there too much.
Fortunately, they mostly have a way of carrying on and being heard and listened to. That's why I'm grateful for Twitter and other blogs even. Twitter is really a commenter's medium and isn't for celebrity doofuses.
Lastly, much like other academic politics, I think Althouse politics are so vicious because the stakes are so low.
Oh shit, the secret's out!!!
That crew over there really is an er, well, interesting and different sort of a bunch. I still don't know how I feel about the place; it's kind of like crack for internet curiosity and the search for free-flowing opinion.
Personally, I wonder if I haven't reached some kind of equilibrium because I recently challenged Althouse on a claim made regarding her schooling (and ultimately, in a way in which I thought I tried hard to avoid any offense), which she seemed to not take too personally. Which is good. But I realize that I'm probably always one step away from being burned on a really petty detail and in a way that misreads my motives in a manner that I find hard to take seriously. Maybe that's part of the fun of it.
Re: Allen - you can always direct him to the well-known method for determining sock puppets on Althouse; by checking Blogger ID of the profiles. It's the method Palladian's used to "out" previous sock puppets, so maybe that should carry some clout with Allen. But you never know. People will believe what they want to believe. It was amazing to me, for instance, the lengths to which elhombre went in claiming that I tried to deceive him regarding my identity, even after I linked to the posts and comments in which I announced that I had changed my name.
What can I say? Some people will go to very extreme lengths to believe exactly what they want to believe.
Myself, I don't have much desire to find the post in question. I pretty much find the posts where I think I can find something to say without causing too much of a stir (but just enough of one ;-)) and avoid the rest. And oftentimes "the rest" are so freaking outrageous that all I can do is take pride in my newfound willingness to simply look the other way when goofy trifles just becomes too damn extreme to treat any other way.
But seriously, Trooper and I are long-lost cousins. We met up at the York family reunion in 2005 and hope to meet up again in a different dimension. Or something.
But seriously, Trooper and I are long-lost cousins.
Trooper is already cousins with Ron-does that make you Ron's cousin too?
Positively incestuous.
I just read the post.
Troop, you're obviously a good, decent guy with morals I respect. And you have a much greater aptitude for avoiding contentiousness.
But as someone who (apparently) doesn't - at least not as consistently, one word of advice: There is so much BS in the world and on the web that you will go crazy if you take it personally. Even if you stick to forums where a chummy atmosphere prevails, like at Althouse, you never know exactly what kind of person you're dealing with. And everyone has their bad days. Who knows what goes through AllenS' head half the time?
I know I can be a grating SOB when it comes to some of the things I'll argue about, but I'm never averse to taking a double-take and wondering if I misread or over-reacted to something. I'm sure I do it all the time. Allen should too. Don't take it hard that you called him out and he sniped like a defensive little scorpion in return. People don't always (or in some instances if you ask me, usually) think when they're posting comments on a chat board.
I just read the thread from the top.
I don't think that Allen is confused as to your identity.
I just think he resents that you'll say what you want, and stick to your guns, independently.
He just called you by my name to piss you off and get under your skin.
And I kind of wish Meade well, but his flip-flopping attempt to moderate makes the thread harder to take seriously. Not everything is cut-and-dry when it comes to culpability, but as the parent of the kid in question, I think garage reserves the right to be treated more respectfully in that regard. Mike shouldn't have got defensive.
Anyway, as long as I'm here, why not raise a new idea for bloggable topics?
Ladies and Gentlemen, it is my pleasure to present to you: Swiss Women's Curling Team Olympian, Carmen Schaefer!
(Seriously, the shots of her during the live coverage were way hot. It must have had something to do with the contextual presentation.)
I mean seriously, she glides on ice as she pushes stones around with a stick, and sports a tongue-ring.
That's hot.
Troop
I understand where you're coming from but I think Mike's explanation for his comment is because that certain commenter has trotted out his kid as an example of why we need Uncle Sam running the health care show and basically all Mike was saying is, with your kid's situation, be careful what you wish for. That's not even in the same ball park as going after someone's kid like the lunatic lefties did with Palin.
Its also not above a certain commenter to get a bit personal with other commenters family members either. That same individual, after I made a crack about Hillary's huge rear, said he can't really comment unless he saw Mrs. Hoosier's to compare. I guess I had that coming I suppose since I wasn't aware he was married to Hillary. I suppose I should have been outraged but as a conservative that would mean I have to have feelings ;-)
Hey its just my two cents Troop. Org. Mike is a decent guy and isn't a complete ass like I can be sometimes.
Hey Hoosier I don't have a problem with Org Mike. Garage said it was fine with him and so that's that.
Org. Mike explained his point very well. I didn't even originally go there. I was just talking to garage with sympathy as I have had a recent diagnosis of diabetes in my family and we are working on it so I know what a fucked up disease it is.
As I said there, I just thought that just as I didn't like douches like Loafing Oaf going after Palin's kids, I wanted to nip it in the bud if my two cents could help.
That crew over there really is an er, well, interesting and different sort of a bunch.
You know Ritmo, you have a flair for the keyboard it must be said but you tend to be a wee bit off putting; dare I say condescending when you pop in on some topic and write a Shakespearean thesis that after parsing through the paragraphs essentially says: Conservatives are dumb.
But hey, opinions vary and I have a whole barrel of them myself. Yeah the folks over there may be a strange lot but consider that the feeling may be mutual.
Ok I'm done. I have beer to drink. Peace and happy libations to everyone.
A couple of years ago, one of my favortie authors Eric Flint wrote a book called "An Oblique Approach" which is about the ancient general of Eastern Roman Empire named Belisarius. It is an alternative history where he meets a challenge from outer space.
But the gist of it is that Beliisarius never attacked straight on but took it on an oblique angle that would take them by surprise.
Sometimes you have to read some of my comments with that oblique approach in mind.
The subtext of my comment was that the evil blogger lady had recently made an unwarranted and kinda of vicious attack on a former commenter and one of their children. Really uncalled for bullshit. People know what I am talking about so I don't want to spell it out. So I thought it was particularly hypocritical for Mr. Greenjeans to pipe up and tell other people to keep the kids out of it. That's why I put in the phrase "You know who you are."
And Ritmo I appreciate the good advice.
I try not to get into substantive arguments too often because I know myself. Like you I love to argue and dispute political points but I have a tendency to get really mean and vicious and I don’t like that about myself. I try to be a better person if I can. Especially during Lent. I mean it will be really funny and mean and shit but I don’t want to fall into that trap. That’s why I let most shit go. It is not worth it. I agree with you wholeheartedly.
Afterall there are plenty of things we all agree on. That's why Hoosier Daddy, Ritmo, Michael H, El Pollo Real,Windbag, Ricpic, blake, AJ, RC, Ron and me call all meet up at the strip club for a few beers with a big stack of dollar bills.
Let's keep our eyes on the ball.
Wait that's Jason (the commenter) and Palladian.
Let's keep our eyes on the tits!!!
That's all well an good and odd and codependent, but Bissage is still dead. I read that somewhere.
That's all well an good and odd and codependent, but Bissage is still dead.
When I was kid there was a much older kid down the street who ran away to Haight-Ashbury. He came back a vegetable.
I'm afraid that Bissage might have gotten hold of a bad batch of Althouse acid.
"That's all well an good and odd and codependent, but Bissage is still dead."
Stop trying to cheer me up!
If group hug time is over, I'd like a beer.
See I hate it when I get mean.
If group hug time is over, I'd like a beer.
Make mine a Schaefer
Strippers hate it when you show up with a roll of dimes.
Just sayin'
For some reason the vending machines at my work are set up next to a change machine that dispenses Sacajawea silver dollars and quarters. It was great for when I needed to park in town and feed the meters after work, before we converted to those fancy shmancy machines that take credit and debit cards.
Anyway, I hate having to break a $20 at the "club" and get singles that have been all over God knows where. So last time I offered my friendly dancing professional the Sacajawea dollar coins I had jingling in my pocket.
Suffice it to say, it must be hard enough pretending your name is "Ginger" or "Celeste" for 40 hours a week without having to stuff some metal coins down in crotch.
At least, that's what I hear.
We should definitely all hit a club like that together one day.
Either that or Dave and Buster's. But that wouldn't be as fun. You'd all kick my ass at foosball or whatnot. It's fun taking a date there instead because you can watch her get all competitive trying to kick your ass and let a few shots make it past you so that she can feel good, while you just relax back and punt enough easy points at whatever game you're playing to win.
I even learned to kick ass at Guitar Hero.
"Mr. Greenjeans" - lol.
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