Thursday, January 29, 2009

Did you ever get in the wrong crowd and want to ease your way out of it.

Did you ever get in with the wrong crowd and have to ease your way out of it? I mean you are making an argument and you think you are doing OK but the other people who agree with you jump in and it starts to get ugly. I mean they jump in with ugly stories and jokes that are just not funny and undermine your whole position.

Oh here's Zach Sire and Pallidan's wedding photo.

66 comments:

dr kill said...

Who was the Best Man?

KCFleming said...

Jayzus Troop, that was hilarious. "Dry as..." Damnation.

Gotta agree about the crowd though. It's like someone offering to help with repairs and the first thing they do is break a tool and send the tray of nuts and bolts flying.

Who needs enemies?

Ruth Anne Adams said...

Link, please.

blake said...

With friends like these, who needs enemas?

Zachary Sire said...

Andrew Sullivan was the Best Man.

Trooper York said...

You put me on the spot Ruth Anne, I don't know how to do all that fancy linking stuff. I am still at the horse and buggy stage.

It was the post on Althouse about Bush telling a joke where I slapped junior around a little but people started to pile on.

knox said...

JAC has been sassy for the last month or so, hasn't he. Atypically so. I think it presents a quandary for the commenters.

Hoosier Daddy said...

JAC has been sassy for the last month or so, hasn't he.

Actually I thought that was his usual style.

It was the post on Althouse about Bush telling a joke where I slapped junior around a little but people started to pile on.

But that's when the fun really starts Troop. Can't show mercy. That's for liberals. Crush your enemies, see them driven before you and then drink their beer.

blake said...

Crap. I don't drink beer. What else is in the fridge?

Trooper York said...

I know what you mean knox. He definitely has a Caroline Kennedy thing going on lately.

I think it is a big mistake for him to title himself with the Althouse name. He should just comment as John Cohen. Or Schlossberg as the case might be.

Trooper York said...

I tried to joke him out of that a while ago but he didn't agree. It just stirs up needless animosity by trading on the fact that Althouse is his mother. It is better if your comments stand on their own without any shading or deference because of your linage.

There is a place for pretentious drivel in the blogosphere.

Just not here.

Don't forget to vote in the new sandwich poll.

Hoosier Daddy said...

There is a place for pretentious drivel in the blogosphere.

Pretentious. That sums it up right there.

Hoosier Daddy said...

I think we all view each other in the blogosphere based upon the way we comment.

Trooper I picture as Ralph Kramden.

For some reason I see Pogo as Dr. Pretorius.

And Philly cheesesteaks rule.

Trooper York said...

Yeah but he is just a kid. When he gets to our age it will probably be beaten out of him. Of course he has to live in the real world for awhile and get away from that college shit. Otherwise you never grow up.

Hoosier Daddy said...

Trooper that's not to mean I think you're fat, but your wit reminds me of him.

Blake can be Norton.

Hoosier Daddy said...

While I'm at it lets just finish the montage and Ruth Anne can be Alice and Darcy can be Trixie.

Trooper York said...

You know that's exactly what I said to Pallidan when we first met at the Althouse meet up. I said "Dude you really disappointed me. I expected you to look like Mr. Peanut on the Planters Peanut jar. You know top hat, cane, and monocle."

Looked nothing like that.

Freeman Hunt said...

JAC is no kid. He's my age. He's Simon's age. Okay, maybe we're all kids, but people do seem selective in who they call kids.

Trooper York said...

That's OK Hoosier. I always thought of you as Bob Crane from Hogans Heroes. Without the lurid sex life.

(At least in reality, on the Internet that's another story)

Trooper York said...

You're right Freeman. But you are a grownup.

Simon and JAC not so much. I like them both but they are both relying a little too much on theory and not on how the real world works. They are opposite sides of the same coin.

You don't really know what is what until something big happens to you. You have a child. You lose a parent. You lose your job and you don't know where dinner is coming from. Then you grow up. Toot sweet as it were.

Trooper York said...

I see Freeman as Markie Post.

Ruth Anne Adams said...

Video killed the radio star. Nepotism killed the blogster.

Trooper York said...

I see Ruth Anne as Lucille Ball and Darcy as Kathleen Turner.

(Age appropriate ladies I mean, Ruth Anne put down the gun, I mean the Lucy of Lucy and Ricky and the Kathleen Turner of Romancing the Stone that's what I mean)

Hoosier Daddy said...

JAC is no kid. He's my age.

Well don't take this the wrong way Freeman but you do look like you're 19. :-)

That's OK Hoosier. I always thought of you as Bob Crane from Hogans Heroes. Without the lurid sex life.

That's about right. I may not have the lurid sex life but the household is not unlike Stalg 13.

Hoosier Daddy said...

And Freeman it is an age thing. All my cycling buddies are 8+ years older than me and they call me junior.

It's all the more embarrasing when they kick my ass on rides but I think they're all on Viagra so I chalk it up to performance enhancing drug use.

Trooper York said...

I think your comments have to stand and fall on their own merits. Look at our buddy RH Hardin. He has established himself as a valued and respected commenter while mainly posting little snippets of woman bashing and photos of chickens he just molested.

Trooper York said...

Meade is definitely Herb Tarlick.

In a good way.

Trooper York said...

RH is definitely Less Nessman.

Trooper York said...

Cedarford is the father guy Red on that Seventies Show. He also plays the dad on this new show "Worst Week" which is a pretty funny slapstick comedy.

Trooper York said...

Dust Bunny Queen is Joan Collins.

Trooper York said...

Mort looks exactly like Courntey Vance who is playing Tina Turners husband on ER these days.

That's not fair because I met him in real life.

Trooper York said...

Hd House looks exactly like Will Geer who was grandpa in the Waltons. Of course that is sad because Will Geer has been dead for ten years.

blake said...

Blake can be Norton.

Heya, Trooper-Boy!

While I'm at it lets just finish the montage and Ruth Anne can be Alice and Darcy can be Trixie.

Ooh. I can live with that!

Freeman Hunt said...

You don't really know what is what until something big happens to you. ... Then you grow up.

You are right. That is too true.

blake said...

>>I see Freeman as Markie Post.

Heheh.

Markie Post was the Adrienne Barbeau of the '80s.

Darcy said...

Aww...Trixie and Kathleen Turner!

That made my day.

You guys are cracking me up.

Zachary Sire said...

I'm older than JAC and I've been called a "kid" and told that I haven't had "experience" in the "real world." Spare me. Everyone has their own unique experience. Just because I haven't had a kid or had someone close to me die (yet, thank god) doesn't mean that I haven't had to live a complicated, crazy life and face challenges in work, home, relationships, etc., just like someone 20 years older than me.

And, newsflash, I never will have a kid.

KCFleming said...
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KCFleming said...

I see Pogo as Dr. Pretorius.

Curses! My cover's blown!

Didn't the pantsless marsupial fool anyone??

I allways loved Ruth Anne's picture. I know I didn't really, but she seems much like someone I would have known in gradeschool.

But Trooper's right about Ruth Anne, Dracy, and Freeman.

As for the Son King, he'll drop the rigid beliefs when the ground shifts, and his illusions are shattered. At least I hope so.

Darcy said...

Pogo, are you into the cabernet? I thought I noticed you ssslurring and calling me Dracy.

And you have no pants.

KCFleming said...

Nabbed again!

Oops on the spelling, Darcy.
A pinot noir, actually.
Possums really oughtn't to drink. It's not just losing the pants, it's explaining the marching band hat.

No, I do not know where I got it, and I am afraid to find out.

KCFleming said...

I'm keeping the drum, though.

I've got the music in me,
I've got the music in me,
I've got the music in mee-ee-heee.

Darcy said...

LOL, Pogo.

ricpic said...

Is that the key? Walking around without pants? Is that what makes you beloved? Whadda they say, no guts no glory? I...lack the guts.

Freeman Hunt said...

Haha, Markie Post. Except I think that would make my husband Harry Anderson. Maybe if Harry Anderson had muscles more like The Rock pre-wussification... Hmmm. Not bad.

blake said...

Except I think that would make my husband Harry Anderson. Maybe if Harry Anderson had muscles more like The Rock pre-wussification... Hmmm. Not bad.

That would make Mr. Freem....Carrot Top?

Freeman Hunt said...

That would make Mr. Freem....Carrot Top?

Heh. Not so much.

Hoosier Daddy said...

Zach

You’re a nice guy so let me just say this about my comment about the real world. Like I said at Althouse, your comments are what spurred that response from me. Case in point; I recall an Althouse thread some time back when you were kicking your heels in joy because you lost your job and were looking forward to the free time. That’s not how someone with a ‘complex’ life would react. I lost a job I was at for ten years and was devastated. First because I loved the job and second cause I had a kid, a mortgage, bills and a family that depended on my income. Free time meant foreclosure and bankruptcy in short order if I didn’t find another job. I didn’t have a mom and dad to move in with. Then your most recent comments about illegal immigration: Oh I love Mexicans, I want more to come and stay but oh boy there’s a lot of them and it would be nice if some went home. I paraphrase of course but Zach that sounds like something a 7 year old would say so you’ll have to forgive me if I think you’re more than a tad naïve in matters of life.

Now I'm turning off my serious mode because it's just so unbecoming on Trooper's blog.

Hoosier Daddy said...

Is that the key? Walking around without pants? Is that what makes you beloved? Whadda they say, no guts no glory? I...lack the guts.

Plus there is the tripping hazard but that's another issue altogether.

Zachary Sire said...

Hoosier, my comments about Mexicans and losing my lob last year were flighty, stream of consciousness type comments, and not meant to be taken as my actual position or reaction. Not everything we type in blog comments should be taken so seriously!

knox said...

Look at our buddy RH Hardin. He has established himself as a valued and respected commenter while mainly posting little snippets of woman bashing

Troop, I have always appreciated that you give him a hard time. Althouse commenters are mostly men and no one ever calls him on that bullshit. I always felt like if I said anything, it'd come across like a whiny feminist.

Something tells me JAC's politics aren't changing, no matter how much "growing up" there is.

knox said...

I recall an Althouse thread some time back when you were kicking your heels in joy because you lost your job and were looking forward to the free time. That’s not how someone with a ‘complex’ life would react.

Have to agree. That reaction is a big luxury for an adult.

hugs, zach!

Hoosier Daddy said...

Not everything we type in blog comments should be taken so seriously!

Ok fair enough.

Trooper York said...

Hey pal I take camel toe very seriously.

And sandwiches too!!!

blake said...

knox--

Re RH: Eh, whaddayado? You gonna call CedarFord out every time he brings up The Jooos? Michael every time...every time he opens his mouth? Only so many hours in a day.

He's thrown around the "40%" number a lot so I just figure he's talking about that minority of women.

knox said...

blake,

Sorry, it's just disappointing when no one says anything. Probably if the scenario were different: if there weren't so few women commenters (tho' the number fluctuactes), and it wasn't a woman's blog, I'd feel differently.

"40%" number I have never seen him qualify his statements, but if he does, I guess that's something.

I remember you compared him to an android once. Some hilarious reference to Blade Runner. I appreciated that too. In fact, that might have been what got me to take notice and start reading your blog.

Trooper York said...

RH is an interesting case. I know a lot of guys just like him. He was probably really hurt by a woman once and never got over it. So he makes dogmatic statements about them because he has kinda lost interest in pleasing them or hooking up with them. So if he can push your buttons he will.

He is the grown up version of the kids on the TV show "The Big Bang Theory."

Trooper York said...

Now Meade on the other hand, that dude is a freak.

Hoosier Daddy said...

I remember you compared him to an android once. Some hilarious reference to Blade Runner.

I'm picturing Leon.

Meade is more the Roy Batty type.

Knox you can be Zhora. That was Joanna Cassidy in a super fine role. I'm sure Trooper knows of what I speak.

Trooper York said...

OH BABY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

JOANNA CASSIDY IN BLADE RUNNER!!!!

THAT CALLS FOR A GRATIUTIOUS CHEESECAKE SHOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!

knox said...

Hey, thanks, Hoosier. She kicks ass.

blake said...

IIRC--and I may well not be--rh showed up during your absence, i.e., after knoxgirl and before knox. So his shtick got old (to me) before you met him.

There's a quite an overlap in his interests and my own. (I wrestled a lot with language processing and came to many of the same conclusions he has, for example.) And I think his quest/nag paradigm is actually pretty good, if one sided: A relationship is a lot about letting the other person do stuff for you and showing your gratitude.

But I think he's taken a true observation (that things are sensationalized in the media, and women are the biggest influence) and gone way too far (that any expression of emotion is an appeal to women without value or even sincerity).

We talk a lot about "manliness" around these parts, and he's taken the appreciation of "stoic competence" almost to the sociopathic level of "complete lack of empathy".

Hence my Voight-Kampff remarks.

One of the hardest things men have to do is share an emotional space with women, and I agree with Troop that it sound like he's given up. (Whether he actually has or not is a different issue, we're just talking about his presentation on Althouse.)

Trooper York said...

I think it is great that the most comments we ever had at Trooper York is on a thread where we celebrate gay marriage.

Congratulations boys.

knox said...

Blake,

all of your comments are insightful, and likely pretty accurate.

Surely, the reason he bothers me at all is because (unlike Cedarford) he is obviously smart and has a lot going for him; but he almost pig-headedly sticks to the same tiresome theme. Certainly there is some truth to it--but anyone with sense or humanity sees that there's so much more.

One of the hardest things men have to do is share an emotional space with women

I have only begun to really understand this in the last several years. So I am somewhat handicapped as well, I suppose.

Trooper York said...

"One of the hardest things men have to do is share an emotional space with women"

That's very true but there is nothing more rewarding. You just have to have someone who want in the foxhole with you. Then the rest is cake.

blake said...

I have only begun to really understand this in the last several years. So I am somewhat handicapped as well, I suppose.

Oh, me, too. That's our generation, really: We grew up in the feminist/post-feminist era where there weren't supposed be any differences between men and women.

Whatever the flaws of the old system, there was at least an appreciation of how menfolk and womenfolk are different.