Trooper York: How I Met Your Mother - The Final Conversation

Monday, July 22, 2013

How I Met Your Mother - The Final Conversation

151 comments:

MamaM said...: Living off rain water and a small spider farm...Bad stuff...we be shittin' in a bucket.

Well, that's the part where I laughed, but I'm really here to add to the New Name For Lem's Place List:

The Tool Shed

(Noun and Verb); July 22, 2013 at 7:55 PM
Michael Haz said...: The Tool Shed

Don't ask how I know this.; July 22, 2013 at 8:10 PM
Evi L. Bloggerlady said...: Tool Shed is a good name.

Michael Haz, I do not need to know.

My suggestion was Meade's Litter Box, but I am trying to be more positive.; July 22, 2013 at 8:36 PM
MamaM said...: Groom 'n' Bloom; July 22, 2013 at 8:41 PM
MamaM said...: No....

Bloomin' Groom!; July 22, 2013 at 8:42 PM
Trooper York said...: That fuckin' worthless cunt Meade just went after Palladian saying that he took money for artwork that he didn't produce. The guy said he was basically homeless and all of his goods were in storage until the start of the school year when he would have some money to get situated.

That guy is the fuckin worst of the worst. He begs for money for his fuckin slatternly twat of a meal ticket but begrudges the few bucks he sent to someone who is down on their luck. What a fuckin cunt.; July 22, 2013 at 9:23 PM
yashu said...: This comment has been removed by the author.; July 22, 2013 at 9:32 PM
Michael Haz said...: Which thread?; July 22, 2013 at 9:38 PM
Chip S. said...: Today, on Blogs of Our Lives....

Fueled by rage and alcohol, Ann blurts out the shocking truth about her childhood.

Laurence is sent reeling by Ann's revelation and goes wandering through the streets of Salem on a drunken binge, berating everyone he encounters.

"Witches! You're all witches!" he cries into the night.; July 22, 2013 at 9:39 PM
yashu said...: "Which thread?"

A Portrait of the Vortex.; July 22, 2013 at 9:42 PM
Trooper York said...: It is simply unbelievable. I mean I knew he was a worthless cocksucker but this off the chart fucked up.

Words fail me.; July 22, 2013 at 9:56 PM
The Dude said...: But Meade pays his butt boy Lem a dollar a week! His mommy gives him a dollar to go play in traffic. He doesn't tell her that he is a bad bad boy.; July 22, 2013 at 10:00 PM
Trooper York said...: And people still defend him and that peroxide garden gnome he married.

What the fuck.; July 22, 2013 at 10:02 PM
The Dude said...: I know you don't want to hear it, but Lem is a total douche. He has one rule - do not pick on Meadey or Inga.

Fuck him and his weak-ass blog.; July 22, 2013 at 10:04 PM
Dust Bunny Queen said...: The thread topic over at Lem's is a masterful strategy by our very own Pollo Raylan. It is bait for Meade to come and show his own true colors.

@ Sixty. I know. The stupid, the weakness, the pussidom ....it burns!!! But here is what I have learned in my years and how to get even......OK not not JUST even, WIN!!!...it takes time and stealth. Meade is a sociopath. We have to learn to deal with him on his own turf and this latest move is a stroke of genius to draw him out and and reveal his true colors. It is (to quote Titus) fabulous.

Patience.; July 22, 2013 at 10:10 PM
The Dude said...: Two snaps up, DBQ!; July 22, 2013 at 10:13 PM
yashu said...: This comment has been removed by the author.; July 22, 2013 at 10:15 PM
Bleach Drinkers Curing Coronavirus Together said...: Lol. Blogs of Our Lives...

Not sure what to make of Lem (thought he was just a harmless, if hapless drunk a while ago), let alone what kind of a deal with the devil he would have made, it could be a fun place. Obviously they've got seven others, including Chickie. It's their decision how to treat the duckweed (and yes, yashu - his presence is an insult to dicks. That's a great line).

Anyway, Sixty provided a great link that I researched further. Didn't want to link it there since I'm trying to keep my nose clean. I had enough of a fun time bloodying that bastard's nose on Sunday, and said enough of a peace to last for ten lifetimes. If they're still confused whose the bitch, that's on them, but I don't want to do too much scuffling. You know I can and you know that, despite what Deborah says, I was never "willingly" played by them.

But it's a question of what I'll take part in turning it into. There's a balance between nice fun and fecklessness and obviously Fuckface Laurence is determined to destroy it.

Either that or he did just have one weekend too many of no Cialis refills or a wine box that ran out.

Whatever.

Falling like a rock...

(Remember that Chevy commercial w/Bob Seger?)

I admire your guys' integrity more and more each day. This episode is revealing the worst in people and yet there are still some who choose to focus on the bystanders. Human behavior is fascinating.; July 22, 2013 at 10:18 PM
The Dude said...: Thanks - I posted it. There are only so many ways to call Meade a cunt. Well, only one good way, but you know...; July 22, 2013 at 10:22 PM
TTBurnett said...: This comment has been removed by the author.; July 22, 2013 at 10:23 PM
Michael Haz said...: Good Lord. Whose telephone number got published?

Slamming Palladian when he's struggling is such a low-class bullying play its unthinkable that a reasonable guy would do it. Bless Ari and Allen for jumping in.

Meade's behavior, if he's that away at home, is abusive. Maybe Althouse is a victim? Remember how drugged and manipulated she looked in that vlog?

Maybe her saying "I just want to write" is her really telling him "just leave me alone."; July 22, 2013 at 10:27 PM
Dust Bunny Queen said...: @ Yashu Having once been in a similar type of relationship I also share your concerns for her mental and possibly physical well being. Isn't it weird to be concerned about people that you have never met and will likely never have any interaction with.

As to Ritmo. I have been at odds but as you know I admire a good debate and masterful trolling abilities.

There's a balance between nice fun and fecklessness and obviously Fuckface Laurence is determined to destroy it.

I agree. You can disagree without being an evil vindictive a-hole. There are many ways to make your point and verbally demolish your opponent. It was a really low blow what Meade did to Palladian and illustrates his total lack of morals.

Sociopath. Doesn't mean Ted Bundy. Can often just be the guy next door.; July 22, 2013 at 10:35 PM
The Dude said...: This comment has been removed by the author.; July 22, 2013 at 10:36 PM
Dust Bunny Queen said...: @ Sixty. Oh. I'm not making Palladian out to be some sort of martyr. Who knows the reality of what our lives are really like.

But. The low blow, to try to hit a vital spot or sore spot, is just indicative to the lack of moral character on the part of Meade.; July 22, 2013 at 10:41 PM
Bleach Drinkers Curing Coronavirus Together said...: Aridog typed his phone number out into a comment to let Potato Guy know that he was available to talk to him in person.

I'm pretty sure that Althouse is a narcissist, if not a malignant narcissist. (Or whatever the proper terminology is). Whatever Meade is, he's a bit of a doofus. Not as intelligent as her. Whether he was always a bitch or her personality defect has worked its black magic into his soul is for others to guess. Troop knew the guy once, so he's in a better position to say than I.

All I know is that I hated the bitch ever since about a few months of reading, and realizing what a hysterical fraud she was. I took issue with a post or two, and quickly found out that she could never relent. (Serious bloggers admit error - or at least engage the argument). I found that perplexing, especially when combined with her willingness to shock, and the rest is history. All y'all's know it.

I don't need to go into the rest. I never knew who was to blame for whatever I didn't like, but over time her own defects became clearer to me. Probably by about 2008, when it seemed like she was running a Jerry Springer show. Complete with the cheering fans. Lawnboy achieved ringside status shortly before or thereafter, he did some things that made me think he was a bit nicer, and either the bitch warped him (and obviously his simple mind helps if I'm going to blame his warpedness on her) or he always had some bit of it in him. Troop would know better.

What do I care and how is this anything other than predictable? If you've ever met a narcissist, her behavior is textbook. She's an empty person. Who knows what he's got in him, other than a need to feed a black hole. For chrissakes, she calls all her self-induced swirlies of drama "vortices" (plural of "vortex") for crying out loud.

It's all predictable. The only thing I got out of it was a chance to verbally sucker punch him all up and down that blog Sunday. So I've had my fill. It's like any reason they ever gave me to tell it like it is over the last 5 years I finally took out.

What's in it now for me? Not much. I was enjoying the Chickie thread. If he's throwing bait, if Mr. Potato-Head's appearances are now inevitable, who knows? It is sad as anything. I was really appreciating being a part of the good side of what the commenters (now bloggers) brought, and finally came to terms with what a determined troll (and not just an agitator for honesty) can do. The chip on his shoulder is the size of Montana.

I have a clean conscience. There's some vindication here, and I just wanna have good clean fun. I'll tear him a new asshole over and over again, if they don't want, as many times as they'll let me.

But it really does get kind of boring. That bastard just makes everything too fucking easy.

If you want my opinion, Meade's too stupid and transparent to be a narc. Or much of anything, really. He's just playing his part in the drama that his penis and his ego convinced him was the role of a lifetime.

Enjoy it while you can, chump.

Fuck him. Seriously. He's too much of a loser to waste any words on, let alone this many.

Troop, at some point anyone in these corners of blogland is just going to have to find a way to be above it. Don't their pathologies become predictably boring after a while?; July 22, 2013 at 10:48 PM
Evi L. Bloggerlady said...: Meade is a small miserable creep.

Which is no wonder why he is a parasite to ol dirty EBL.; July 22, 2013 at 10:52 PM
Bleach Drinkers Curing Coronavirus Together said...: But. The low blow, to try to hit a vital spot or sore spot, is just indicative to the lack of moral character on the part of Meade.

Like a famous Secretary of Defense once said, you go to war with the army you have.; July 22, 2013 at 10:53 PM
The Dude said...: I hear you, DBQ - as I said, I was just feeling a bit bad for mocking him earlier.

Now twice in one day I have been tied to comments by Meade - if nothing else I need to reflect on what kind of jackwad I am being if there is not a dime's worth of difference between us in comment land.

But it sure is fun posting those graphs - which clearly I can't read. LOL!; July 22, 2013 at 10:57 PM
Chip S. said...: Looks like Palladian's on the brink of a breakdown thanks to Meade.

Chick, don't you have the ability to delete Meade's comments? If so, I wish you'd get on it.; July 22, 2013 at 10:59 PM
Chip S. said...: Somebody over there said Meade = Mary.

At this point, I can't see any diff b/w them. If Mary is deletion-worthy, then so is Meade.; July 22, 2013 at 11:03 PM
Bleach Drinkers Curing Coronavirus Together said...: Yeah, it's getting just plain filthy. Meade really is a bully of the worst sort.

I've had my words with Palladian and Sixty's got a point but cruelty is cruelty. He's got a good side to him as well. Regardless, no need to judge the man when the point here is Meade's evil.

It's just plain sick to watch. I got the Hannah Arendt thing out of me re: banality already. But this part is the nauseating part. Makes you wish you could do something.

Meade is a bastard.; July 22, 2013 at 11:04 PM
Bleach Drinkers Curing Coronavirus Together said...: At least I got to follow-up Allen's comment re: battle armor with a link to Jim Parsons trouncing around in plate mail from his movie with Zach Braff.

Watch it. Take a look at what Meade really is. The funniness of what a tool is helps take the sting of his revolting self away.; July 22, 2013 at 11:06 PM
Chip S. said...: Nice visual, Ritmo.

(Like everyone else, I've stuck w. "Ritmo". "Rhythm" is too hard to spell.); July 22, 2013 at 11:12 PM
Michael Haz said...: Meade has said he' ll go away if no one mentions either his name or Althouse's.

So it looks like well be talking about Archie and Edith.

Especially Edith's passion for the 1st amendment.; July 22, 2013 at 11:18 PM
Bleach Drinkers Curing Coronavirus Together said...: Lol, I know. What's up with the two consonant clusters separated by a letter that's only technically a vowel and both with h's? Plus, thm? Really? What kind of a messed up English way is it to spell that?

I really though tonight would be more fun. How damn depressing, what that guy did.

Why don't we just all go over there and throw verbal rocks at Meade? Don't you wish you could do something? This is really starting to feel depressing, no? Is it really just me?

I think Troop really feels let down to see Meade show colors this dark.

But this is how I got into so much trouble over all those years - being too compelled to action. All they need to do is say the word but I prefer showing them that I can be restrained. Thanks for letting me vent and figure all this out here.

But there really are no answers. Cruelty is cruelty. I wish more can be done but I'll follow theirs and your leads.

To better times -; July 22, 2013 at 11:18 PM
Bleach Drinkers Curing Coronavirus Together said...: Meade has said he' ll go away if no one mentions either his name or Althouse's.

Talk about lame.

Yesterday I mentioned something about a monkey with a language...; July 22, 2013 at 11:19 PM
Bleach Drinkers Curing Coronavirus Together said...: Someone should create a profile called "No one" and use it to mention the unmentionable names.; July 22, 2013 at 11:20 PM
chickelit said...: I should delete the whole post.; July 22, 2013 at 11:30 PM
Chip S. said...: They're quite the pair, whatever the fuck you call 'em.

She puts up multiple polls about the comments she's glad to be rid of. And berates people for choosing one of the very answers she offers in her poorly written poll.

He can't stop commenting at a site populated exclusively by people he thinks are losers, as well as terrible commenters.

Hey, I understand mental illness, and sympathize in a way. But get these crazies out of the park.; July 22, 2013 at 11:30 PM
Chip S. said...: El Pollo Raylan said...
I should delete the whole post.

A Titanic idea!; July 22, 2013 at 11:32 PM
Chip S. said...: OTOH, there's this counerargument:

I actually found this thread to be extremely enlightening.

In time, Palladian's humiliation will subside, but Meade's will grow and grow if he has even a shred of decency.

Let it stand as his commenting epitaph.; July 22, 2013 at 11:37 PM
blake said...: How Odyssean.; July 22, 2013 at 11:38 PM
Chip S. said...: You found Nemo!; July 22, 2013 at 11:38 PM
Dust Bunny Queen said...: Meade has said he' ll go away if no one mentions either his name or Althouse's

Your never ending presence really cramps my style; July 22, 2013 at 11:52 PM
Bleach Drinkers Curing Coronavirus Together said...: SIXTY!!!

I can't believe it. We missed THE BEST graph of all.

Can't believe we missed that.

Nice listening to that fool fuckface lecture about stats.

Amazing. There are no tanks in Baghdad indeed.

It's like Christmas morning or something.; July 23, 2013 at 12:00 AM
Evi L. Bloggerlady said...: Simulated Meade...; July 23, 2013 at 12:01 AM
Bleach Drinkers Curing Coronavirus Together said...: Houston, we have a problem.

God, I love data that visually definitive. A freaking cliff.

Just need to spread those number ranges out more, is all.

Hopefully another month should do it.

Any bets? WIll it go down to half? A third? More?

See? I AM an optimist!; July 23, 2013 at 12:02 AM
Evi L. Bloggerlady said...: Ritmo I linked to that one earlier in the thread, but it is pretty revealing in what it shows.; July 23, 2013 at 12:03 AM
Chip S. said...: Meh. That graph has a severely attenuated scale.

This one shows a little somethin', but not a whole lot. Lots of people staring at the wreckage, I'd guess.

Now as for that Altazon portal revenue....; July 23, 2013 at 12:09 AM
Bleach Drinkers Curing Coronavirus Together said...: Gotcha, Evi.

I guess the only thing that confused me (other than Potato Head's subterfuge) is when the recent numbers will reflect what the rolling averages show.

But then, if you go to the prediction matrix, the amount of predicted traffic drops off steadily based on whether you are going by traffic in the last month, week or day, respectively. Meaning that each smaller unit of time shows the amount of traffic you can predict over the next month becomes progressively less.

If that's not a sign of steady and consistent loss, then I wouldn't know what is.; July 23, 2013 at 12:10 AM
Bleach Drinkers Curing Coronavirus Together said...: Ok, Chip. That's what I was talking about.

But this matrix/grid shows that the amount of predicted traffic keeps getting lower depending on how recent the numbers are.

That seems to be a solid prediction of steady loss over time.; July 23, 2013 at 12:12 AM
TTBurnett said...: Is there any crowdsourcing or group funding for Palladian?

Kickstarter?

I know Ron tried to raise money that way, but it was too little too late.

You know I used to regard Palladian as the worst asshole on the internet.

Tonight, the top ten places are awarded to Meade. Maybe the top twenty.

Seriously, is there any way to help Palladian out of hock?; July 23, 2013 at 12:13 AM
Bleach Drinkers Curing Coronavirus Together said...: I think you can donate through the PayPal button, no? Or if pushing it requires a purchase, maybe you can indicate no need.

I'd thought of doing that.

Just hope he still has access to it. If he can continuing accessing the web, though, then I don't see why not...; July 23, 2013 at 12:15 AM
Michael Haz said...: I think aridog has contact info for PayPal; July 23, 2013 at 12:19 AM
Evi L. Bloggerlady said...: What Meade did to Palladian was shocking. It took me a while to even process it. If he went tong and hammer with any of us, meh. We can all hold our own. But with a guy who is obviously in a fragile state? That is shameful.; July 23, 2013 at 12:21 AM
TTBurnett said...: Meade's behavior tonight towards Palladian, everything considered, is the most shocking thing I've seen on the internet.

You know, I hold a lot of things against him, but Palladian's current economic condition is not one of them. Many, many people might find themselves in such a pickle. I know, for example, several very good, conservatory-trained musicians with advanced degrees and superb skills who are, if not homeless, at least in very straightened circumstances. Art is a cruel mistress, especially in these times. I am in the fortunate position of being somewhere between art and manufacturing, making musical instruments. But the company I work for and all of us who work for it are dependent on a decent economy and the willingness of people to spend money on music. That can go away, and it has gone away, so my world, seemingly middle-class and respectable, is always skating on a thin edge.

That's true of anyone in the dreaded private sector who tries to make anything and sell it. Some of us find ourselves in better circumstances now, but those could change tomorrow, and my happy world as paterfamilias of college-and-prep-school teenagers could collapse in a few months.

So, let's not dump on Palladian, but see if there's anything we can do to give him a hand. There may not be, but at least we ought to know if it's possible.; July 23, 2013 at 12:31 AM
Bleach Drinkers Curing Coronavirus Together said...: It really was as if he wanted to see how far to the brink he could batter him. It was vicious and savage.

I never trusted them. When someone asks for your email address, you say, "Why?" And then make sure they give you an honest reason for why they should be thought of as trustworthy.

They never did that. It was always kind of "You'll see!"

Evil worms. Really.; July 23, 2013 at 12:33 AM
Bleach Drinkers Curing Coronavirus Together said...: And all just to prove the pettiest of points.; July 23, 2013 at 12:34 AM
Bleach Drinkers Curing Coronavirus Together said...: Tim is right. I'd be more than happy to send a money order to wherever it needs to go.

I told him that way back when.

He has a lot of pride, and took it the wrong way, but I think he realizes that kindness is better than pride now. It's unfortunate if that's what it took, but that was never my point.

He knows that now, I think.; July 23, 2013 at 12:36 AM
Ruth Anne Adams said...: I own three pictures from Evan Izer: two Madonnas and his Ecce Homo. They are all framed and displayed prominently in my home. I also own some of his original fragrance. It is unique and beautiful.

What a hairball that Mr. Althouse is. You know...the indigestible protein remnant that kitty barfed into the urine-soaked litter box.; July 23, 2013 at 12:37 AM
TTBurnett said...: Links? Not to pry, but I'm wondering how much is needed. That will indicate the chance of success. Ron, for example, obviously needed too much, and even though I contributed something, it was obvious it wouldn't work.

OTOH, I know a struggling author who needed about $3000, and she was able to raise it among her online friends, myself included. If Palladian needs, say, $20,000, the chances are slim he could raise that on the internet by Aug. 6. Several thousand would be more plausible. But, I for one, do want to know, because if it looks realistic, I'll stretch more than for mere or likely symbolism.; July 23, 2013 at 12:39 AM
Ruth Anne Adams said...: Tim,
You are a mensch.

Troop,
I'd like to throw some money Palladian's way. Can you facilitate this?; July 23, 2013 at 12:44 AM
TTBurnett said...: I've got to hit the hay, but I'll check back here in the morning.

'Night, all. I hope I can sleep, thinking about all this.; July 23, 2013 at 12:45 AM
yashu said...: This comment has been removed by the author.; July 23, 2013 at 12:55 AM
chickelit said...: Guys, I'd delete the post, but in a way it acts as a mirror which Meade badly needs.; July 23, 2013 at 1:06 AM
yashu said...: This comment has been removed by the author.; July 23, 2013 at 1:06 AM
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Dust Bunny Queen said...: Guys, I'd delete the post, but in a way it acts as a mirror which Meade badly needs.

Don't delete it. It might be causing Lem some anguish, but it serves a valuable function in that it really brought out the real poisonous Meade (ah-oooogha....you have to read the comments in the thread over at Lem's)

Unfortunately, I don't think that Meade is capable of being self aware. Like a cat....will never see his reflection in the mirror.; July 23, 2013 at 1:16 AM
I Have Misplaced My Pants said...: I sent Palladian a little something another time. I believe his PayPal was just whatever contact info is on his site. But email him to be sure. You should be able to find contact info at evanizer.com. I'd make it clickable but I'm on my tablet and it's too much fuss.; July 23, 2013 at 1:36 AM
TTBurnett said...: This comment has been removed by the author.; July 23, 2013 at 1:37 AM
TTBurnett said...: I've started a new WordPress blog, "Old Friends and New" as an alternative to the mess at Lem's. For the next few days, I will moderate comments. After that, people with previously approved comments will be able to post freely. It's a little inconvenient at first, but is the easiest way to preserve the flow of unmoderated Blogger blogs and yet smoothly keep control and exclude bad actors.

Another charming thing about WordPress is that blog authors can edit others' comments. I can hardly wait for Mead to show up. I'll be thrilled to approve his comment and let Trooper and Ritmo decide what he REALLY means to say ;->

Anyway, it's basic right now and still a personal, one-man blog, but that could change if people are interested. I will be happy to add other authors as things progress.

Also the theme kinda sucks, but what do you want in 5 minutes? There are other looks readily available.; July 23, 2013 at 2:09 AM
Trooper York said...: The cry of anguish that Palladian gave over there is pretty scary.

I emailed Palladian tonight but he has not responded as of yet. I used the email listed on his website so I think he will respond.

He has a couple of ways to donate. If he responds and gives me permission to give further details I will share them with you.; July 23, 2013 at 2:27 AM
Evi L. Bloggerlady said...: I do not relish inflicting that sort of psychic pain on anyone (especially if they were down). Meade did it without any hesitation. Could you imagine being under Meade's control?

It is a good thing Ann is too old to have any more children.; July 23, 2013 at 2:39 AM
Trooper York said...: I have had a problem with Althouse for a long time now but I am serious when I say I think that Meade is a grifter and someone should look into the situation. It is becoming clearer and clearer each and every day.

I personally think it is going to end very badly. Very badly.; July 23, 2013 at 2:41 AM
yashu said...: This comment has been removed by the author.; July 23, 2013 at 3:24 AM
blake said...: Y'all are beautifully illustrating a point I made to Darcy not too long ago:

The Althouse blog is not a community.

In the 6-7 years that I read it, I can never once recall her rallying around a member who needed help.

Certainly it's not that we all aren't willing, as this thread illustrates clearly. But a blog like, say, Ace of Spades HQ, will have a constant flow of community-based posts and messages. Hell, every week, there's a book blog that features books "by morons".

Hell, just look here: We've bought stuff from Troop, we've bought Nick's missus' book, Troop front-pages everyone in ways that aren't about Troop or the store.

That's a community. It's kind of the point of being online.

Well, that and I guess, playing "Candy Crush".; July 23, 2013 at 3:25 AM
Darcy said...: Oh my gosh, Tim. I'm crying. Second Ruth Anne's sentiment.

And you ALL are wonderful and I love you. I do.

*sniffle*; July 23, 2013 at 6:11 AM
TTBurnett said...: This comment has been removed by the author.; July 23, 2013 at 7:22 AM
TTBurnett said...: I've got to go to work, but I want to tell you I've thought a lot of this stuff about Meade was over the top. Frankly, it looked to me like Althouse had legitimate reasons to do what she did. I WAS 9 years. Enough can be enough. Plus whatever serious trolling she was subjected to (posting several times a minute, etc.) seemed beyond the usual stuff we've seen since the beginning. Althouse obviously had a troll-gardenish relationship with the Luckyoldsons of the world and his follow-ons, much as we may have felt jerked around by it. But something new may indeed have been happening, so I gave them the benefit of doubt when it came to whatever heaving blanket they found themselves sitting on.

However, things have taken the weirdest possible turn, and I don't know what to think. If they were having trouble with "Mary" and perhaps some other organized trolling we don't know about, that should be unrelated to the rest of the commenting schlubs. The lumpencommentariat may or may not have their various gripes with Althouse. That's to be expected, and part of normal interaction. But to go hammer and tong after everybody for the merest mention of Althouse, well, that is seriously wrong. There really is something awful going on here. Whether Meade is a grifter, as Trooper says, or he is sincere or at least sane and just handling the situation in the worst possible way, I don't know.

But I do know we've got to do something to preserve what remains of the extraordinary Althouse community. I don't know if my little WordPress blog, with its better security, will help. But I'll give it my best shot. In the next day or two, I'll drift over to Lem's and announce it.

Anyway, I've got to go to work!; July 23, 2013 at 7:47 AM
Ruth Anne Adams said...: Blake,
Hi. My name is Ruth Anne. (Hi, Ruth Anne). I'm a Candy Crushaholic. I don't do FaceBook so my daily habit got pretty expensive. And then the AmEx bill came and my husband begged me to get help. So I guess that's when I hit bottom. And now I'm work in' my 12 steps.

(Leader hands her a coin).; July 23, 2013 at 8:17 AM
Chip S. said...: It's too early for me to be sure I'm reading stuff right, but my bleary eyes are telling me that Insty is now accepting comments.

BOOM!; July 23, 2013 at 9:06 AM
Darcy said...: HA! Wouldn't that be a kick in the ass? :); July 23, 2013 at 9:07 AM
Chip S. said...: Either I just registered to comment at Insty's, or I'm dreaming. I think it's a very funny dream.; July 23, 2013 at 9:14 AM
The Dude said...: Curiouser and curiouser...; July 23, 2013 at 9:22 AM
TTBurnett said...: I've deleted the version of this comment I put up last night. It dawned on me I have an old e-mail address dedicated to WordPress stuff, and I'd rather use that for this new venture. It's at the bottom of the comment.

Back to what I wrote last night, more or less:

Troop, or anyone: Any information about an organized way to help Palladian would be great.

I'll try to get my little site going, but I'm very, very busy this week (the National Flute Association Convention is coming up, and there's all kinds of stuff I have to make).

I'll try it alone for a short time, but anyone who thinks they might want to be a co-author of my new Althouse community blog, please e-mail me. The best e-mail is cylindrical_bore@earthlink.net; July 23, 2013 at 9:36 AM
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Unknown said...: Pollo, do you have the power to redact the names, at least?

I'm kind of worried about Palladian. I don't mean to be melodramatic, but he sounded suicidal.

I say this as one whose nephew killed himself over financial concerns (within two days of their being resolved), just last year.

Add public humiliation to the mix, and, well, I'm worried. I want no part at all of anyone's demise, and it sickens me to think it could actually happen.

Does anyone know Palladian IRL who could check on him?; July 23, 2013 at 9:39 AM
Evi L. Bloggerlady said...: I am commenting away over there...; July 23, 2013 at 9:39 AM
Chip S. said...: Mr. Ahoy has an interesting post at Lem's about the definition of terrorism.

Someone should follow it up w/ a post about the definition of extortion. In particular, does it necessarily involve a demand for money, or can it take the form of a "Stop talking about us or I'll keep trolling your blog" threat?; July 23, 2013 at 9:40 AM
The Dude said...: Go for it. I have long since worn out my welcome and Meade is as thick as a brick.; July 23, 2013 at 9:42 AM
ndspinelli said...: Tim, You are one of the very few to express empathy for someone who has not only hurt them, but even worse, hurt their child. You are what Jesus asked us to be.; July 23, 2013 at 9:47 AM
chickelit said...: Pollo, do you have the power to redact the names, at least?

Palladian's name is out there and has been for a long time. I emailed him and asked him if I should delete Meade's BS and he said it was up to me. I think that the comments should stand as a testament to Meade's cruelty.

Aridog put his own name and phone number up--is it still there? If he deleted it, I'l delete and cutting and pasting of it.; July 23, 2013 at 9:48 AM
ndspinelli said...: Hi Ruth Anne. Thanks for coming today and sharing your experience. One day @ a time, sister.; July 23, 2013 at 9:49 AM
chickelit said...: @Darcy: I think Palladian has access to TY. I'll send him a reminder that there are thought here for him.; July 23, 2013 at 9:49 AM
windbag said...: Looks like Palladian's on the brink of a breakdown thanks to Meade.

I've stayed out of this ruckus for the most part. Made a couple of disparaging, general comments against Meadehouse, but this isn't my fight. I recognize many of the names, but not all.

Anyhow, this remark by Chip resonated with me. I don't take this internet stuff very seriously, and have previously dismissed those who do. But, Palladian's crisis and pain are real. The guy sounds (from the reports here--I've not visited Lem's place past the first couple of days he set up shop) desperate.

Blogs, facebook, Twitter, and other social media are ways to connect with others. When television became popular, I'm sure there were critics who lamented its rise in popularity. "Back when I was a kid, we listened to the radio."

When radio emerged, I'm sure it had its share of naysayers. "Back when I was a kid, we read books." And so the cycle goes. "Back when I was a kid, we played in the dirt." "Back when I was a kid, we didn't have time to play." "Back when I was a kid, we spent all our time either running from predators or chasing our dinner." It's easy to dismiss the idle past times of others as shallow and insignificant.

So, it's 2013, and we have something called the internet, and people connect with others they normally would never meet. We can google phrases and become mini-experts on a subject in 30 minutes.

All that to say that Palladian and others who are truly upset with the drama unfolding in the aftermath of Meadehouse's childish meltdown are deserving of a measure of sympathy. It's a high-tech version of human rejection, betrayal, deceit, and manipulation, but in its stripped down definition, there are real people behind the screen names who are inflicting pain on others purposely. Sad.

(Disclaimer: there are those who are simply reaping karma and deserve what abuse they're being served. No sympathy for them.); July 23, 2013 at 9:53 AM
ndspinelli said...: Now, after my heartfelt comment to Tim, I have to put my professional hat on, so please don't be angry. I have agreed w/ Trooper that Meade is a grifter. I'll go over there and give my assessment afterward. But, I would like your takes. I don't know Palladian well, if @ all. I remember few if any exchanges w/ him. He was one of the many commenters I would skip over most the time. Could this be a scam? I've worked cases involving scams, this has that scent.; July 23, 2013 at 9:59 AM
Chip S. said...: Aridog put his own name and phone number up--is it still there?

I hope so. I was planning to call him up today to straighten him out about the VAT.; July 23, 2013 at 10:00 AM
Darcy said...: So glad to hear that you're in touch with Palladian, Bruce. I worried, but if he's responding to email then I won't worry as much.; July 23, 2013 at 10:02 AM
Chip S. said...: Could this be a scam?

Seemed real to me. OTOH, I'll admit that at one point I did wonder if the two of them were collaborating on a script to show Lem's commenters what it felt like to be on the receiving end of really rough comments, in order to generate some sympathy for AA.

But since Meade hasn't followed up on that, I don't think so.; July 23, 2013 at 10:03 AM
Evi L. Bloggerlady said...: ndspinelli, I admit I thought that, are Palladian and Meade in cahoots? But reading those threads I can't see either of them coming up with something like that. For what purpose? To solicit a few bucks and some emails?

Obviously use common sense and caution, but I think Palladian is truly down on his luck and Meade is a mini thug tyrant.; July 23, 2013 at 10:04 AM
Evi L. Bloggerlady said...: This latest from Meade was revealing. Some people are just bad. Meade is one of them.; July 23, 2013 at 10:06 AM
garage mahal said...: Palladian was never afraid to throw haymakers in the comments himself. But what Meade did to Palladian is just fucking unbelievable.; July 23, 2013 at 10:07 AM
Michael Haz said...: I'm registered to comment at Insty's. Now I have to sit quietly until in have an Insty-worthy comment to make.; July 23, 2013 at 10:07 AM
Darcy said...: *hugs garage*; July 23, 2013 at 10:09 AM
Michael Haz said...: Nick - I don't think they are in cahoots. Palladian mentioned his circumstances a while back on AA, before the comments were turned off. Meade used Palladian's circumstances as an attempt to bully others into never mentioning either his or Althouse's names on Lem's blog.

The essence is "stop talking about us or I'll come over here and be an asshole again, and my assholery has no limits".

Which we already knew.; July 23, 2013 at 10:14 AM
Dust Bunny Queen said...: I went to register at Instapundit and someone else already has Dust Bunny Queen

:-(; July 23, 2013 at 10:16 AM
The Dude said...: It's actually more pathological than "talking", Meade's demand is that we cannot "allude" to him or his wife.

That's a weasel word if ever there was a weasel word - he can claim someone alluded to him when he hears a dog whistle.

Lem is too stupid to see that he is being used, which, I guess, is his problem.

My problem is that I have to get some trees in the ground, some grapes pruned back, and some new software loaded.

I have allowed this crap to absorb too much of my life. Fuck them all.; July 23, 2013 at 10:18 AM
chickelit said...: @DBQ: That happened to me on Twitter: somebody already had "chickenlittle" so I made up "chickelit"; July 23, 2013 at 10:19 AM
Dust Bunny Queen said...: I went ahead and used Original Dust Bunny and the photo of me at age 5. I sure hope it isn't going to be the same crap carrying over to instapundits place. With people making sock puppets and stealing identities. OK....fake internet identities, but still...I've been Dust Bunny Queen for quite some time now and would be P/O'd if someone did that.; July 23, 2013 at 10:31 AM
chickelit said...: garage mahal said...
Palladian was never afraid to throw haymakers in the comments himself. But what Meade did to Palladian is just fucking unbelievable.

All true. I think the last thing Palladian wants is for Meade to feel even more reason to attack him or others.

This is almost becoming like a stand your ground test.; July 23, 2013 at 10:32 AM
Dust Bunny Queen said...: This photo.....; July 23, 2013 at 10:32 AM
ndspinelli said...: Folks, Thanks for your take. You're sharp people. I've read the exchanges over there. Not knowing or following Palladian, he was the unknown in the equation. We all agree on Meade being a grifter, weasel. I'll kick in some cash on any Palladian fund based on your assessment. To me, it's inconclusive. But, as stated previously, I don't know the background on Palladian. If it does turn out to be a scam, I've thrown away a lot of dough on horses and @ the crap table. This will pale in comparison.; July 23, 2013 at 10:33 AM
chickelit said...: @DBQ: Insty already said in a comment that he has a selective ban hammer.; July 23, 2013 at 10:33 AM
fred4pres said...: Punching down is never a good idea. Kicking a man when he is down is low rent.; July 23, 2013 at 10:38 AM
Darcy said...: Lord help me not reply to Meade's last comment on Deborah's thread:

"Yeah. You."; July 23, 2013 at 10:40 AM
fred4pres said...: I thought the same thing Darcy, but I will respect Freeman Hunt's time out.; July 23, 2013 at 10:54 AM
The Dude said...: Ooo - look at Darcy goin' all Sixty Grit!

Let sleeping snakes lie. And then remind me to do the same.

Thanks.; July 23, 2013 at 10:55 AM
ndspinelli said...: Fred for Prez, Back from the dead. I see you doing the reverse mortgage ads, so I figured you weren't really dead.; July 23, 2013 at 11:05 AM
Michael Haz said...: I've been sort of on-again, off-again about ignoring Meade over at Lem's, and everywhere else, for that matter. That changed when Meade attacked Palladian very publicly for what is a private business matter between them. And the attack was purposefully made in order for Meade to accomplish an objective that didn't involve Palladian.

It was evil, and evil cannot be left unchallenged; July 23, 2013 at 11:31 AM
fred4pres said...: I am just trying to stay on top of the dirt.; July 23, 2013 at 11:44 AM
TTBurnett said...: Okay, does anybody know how much Palladian needs, and how we can get it to him? I'm good for a few bucks, but I have $30K in tuition checks to write in a few weeks, and I'm wondering how we're going to get through September without a lot of beans and rice.

But it's one thing to feel pinched paying for the appurtenances of middle-class life, and quite another not having a place to live.; July 23, 2013 at 11:45 AM
The Crack Emcee said...: TTB,

What kind of instruments do you make?; July 23, 2013 at 12:02 PM
TTBurnett said...: Crack: I'm in the flute and piccolo business. I'm the wooden instruments manager for Powell Flutes in Boston.; July 23, 2013 at 12:10 PM
TTBurnett said...: Well, checking out Lem's, I lean that Freeman talked with Palladian "late last night," and that "he's strong" and "fine."

So, what is the reality here? Meade accuses him of being a "fraud and con artist," while others are happy to have bought his artwork in the past. He seems desperate to rescue his belongings by Aug. 6, and not to have the money to pay storage fees.

Evanizer.com is not useful. Is there any clarity here? Is he as desperate as he seems? Is there anything any of us can do?

Other people I've known in these circumstances have set up Kickstarter or other similar accounts and have had friends contribute. If Palladian is truly up against it, I'll be the first to chip in a few bucks. But if this is more sturm und drang of the Vortex without much basis in reality, well, count me out.; July 23, 2013 at 12:29 PM
The Dude said...: Méditation from Thais - very nice. Very much needed by me.

Thanks.

And that is beautiful work, Tim.; July 23, 2013 at 12:37 PM
Chip S. said...: She wrote "talked", but when asked for details modified that to "exchanged an email". I've neither talked with or exchanged emails w/ her, but I'll nevertheless say she's trying to put a happy face on the incredible ugliness that got splooged all over her blog.

I don't know the guy at all, so I have no idea if he'd be touched by offers of $ or wounded further.; July 23, 2013 at 12:39 PM
ndspinelli said...: Spike Lee is using Kickstarter to finance his next pic. I guess Hollywood has finally wised up.; July 23, 2013 at 12:48 PM
ndspinelli said...: ChipS, To what are you referring?; July 23, 2013 at 12:50 PM
Chip S. said...: I was replying to TTB @ 12:29.; July 23, 2013 at 12:53 PM
Chip S. said...: There may be a clue about what's caused all the craziness Chez Meadhouse in a recent comment by Meade at Lem's:

Would it be ethically wrong for someone who is legally married to, on internet forums, flirt with others, sexually, while hiding the truth of his/her marriage?

Who may have found whose match.com profile?; July 23, 2013 at 12:55 PM
Trooper York said...: A post about Palladian will be up shortly.; July 23, 2013 at 12:58 PM
Chip S. said...: First in a new series called "Whose That Churl?"; July 23, 2013 at 1:00 PM
blake said...: Hi, Ruth Anne!

I fired up "Candy Crush" just to see what the hubbub was: It looks to me just like "Bedazzled", though confection rather than jewel themed.

Is that right?; July 23, 2013 at 1:09 PM
blake said...: Althouse must be completely isolated if she still tolerates this person. I haven't even read this stuff and my stomach is churning.; July 23, 2013 at 1:15 PM
Methadras said...: Trooper York said...

That fuckin' worthless cunt Meade just went after Palladian saying that he took money for artwork that he didn't produce. The guy said he was basically homeless and all of his goods were in storage until the start of the school year when he would have some money to get situated.

That guy is the fuckin worst of the worst. He begs for money for his fuckin slatternly twat of a meal ticket but begrudges the few bucks he sent to someone who is down on their luck. What a fuckin cunt.

Meade has ventured into cock-sucking prick territory with this. His attack on Palladian like that was totally uncalled for an airing whatever dirty laundry like that on a public forum like Lem's was a low blow because he did out of his vindictiveness and petty nature. What you see is a petty little man, with a petty little mind, who does petty little shit like this to bolster his petty little ego. Then to top off his pettiness, he attacks Palladian over something like mentioning the business between Palladian and his landlord. Really, Meade? You fucking stinky cunt?; July 23, 2013 at 1:20 PM
Methadras said...: Sixty Grit said...

But Meade pays his butt boy Lem a dollar a week! His mommy gives him a dollar to go play in traffic. He doesn't tell her that he is a bad bad boy.

Do you really think that Meade and Lem are in cahoots with each other? I find that a real stretch. No, I see no evidence of that. They are friendly to each other and I think that's where the impression might be coming from. I don't want to project on Lem. He has always been a good dude.; July 23, 2013 at 1:22 PM
Methadras said...: yashu said...

Words fail me.

You know, I've been LOLing at all your "Lonely Hearts Murders" posts. But seriously, at this point, I actually am somewhat concerned for Althouse's well-being.

This guy is on a mission to alienate-- repel-- make enemies out of every last person who once had any fondness for Althouse the blog

And on a mission to stoke her narcissistic insecurity, isolating her and convincing her that "yeah baby, nobody loves you but me. Everyone else, all those other people who said they liked you, they never really liked you, they're just losers and users."

Of course, it's perfectly possible that A is the driving force here, that she knows what he's doing, encourages it or even directs it, and that Meade really is "channeling" her. That prospect is just as fucked up.

Scary.

It's beyond fucked up because either scenario is quite diabological (I made that up) and insidious.; July 23, 2013 at 1:23 PM
TTBurnett said...: Thanks, Sixty. We should compare notes on woodturning sometime!

What we do is a weird combination of metalworking lathe, CNC, and hand work. And, like bowls and anything else out of wood, there's a whole lot of selection and reading of the wood involved. You really can start sweating bullets, knowing you're working on a $13,000 *WOODEN* flute. Scratches and dents can be taken out of silver and gold, but checks and stress cracks, well....; July 23, 2013 at 1:31 PM
Darcy said...: Meade was targeting me with that question, Chip. It hit the mark.; July 23, 2013 at 1:37 PM
Chip S. said...: Well, I still think it's a good bet that she caught him doin' something online that he shoudna been doin'.; July 23, 2013 at 1:41 PM
Darcy said...: I can't speculate on that, but it was a warning shot, maybe more.; July 23, 2013 at 1:49 PM
Trooper York said...: Darcy I have your back on this. I have emails to prove it.

Don't sweat it.; July 23, 2013 at 2:05 PM
Darcy said...: Thank you, Jim.; July 23, 2013 at 2:07 PM
blake said...: The acronym of the day: TBOTFG!

Casting a lot of stones from that glass penthouse.; July 23, 2013 at 2:12 PM
Ruth Anne Adams said...: Blake,
Yes and no. It's the same match 3/4/5 colorful things but it gets progressively harder. Sometimes the clock is on, sometimes you're limited in the number of moves, sometimes you have to drop objects from the top to the bottom. It is to my small brain, quite addictive. But I'm pulling out of my shame spiral and I haven't made any in-app purchases in 48 hours. That's something.; July 23, 2013 at 2:38 PM
Trooper York said...: My has been playing that game for months and has her sister and our daughter and a bunch of friends playing it for months.

It is a real pain in my ass.; July 23, 2013 at 2:41 PM
Trooper York said...: Talk about your scams.

They advertise the game on the old peoples channel hoping they will buy lives.

It is a total fucking scam.; July 23, 2013 at 2:41 PM
Ruth Anne Adams said...: Methadras at 1:20 p.m. today wrote: "...What you see is a petty little man, with a petty little mind, who does petty little shit like this to bolster his petty little ego...."

So we should all call him Richard Petty. Dick for short.

I still kinda' like 'hairball' because it is a useless piece of undigestible protein barfed up by the pussy into the urine-soaked litter box.

Eureka! Dick "Hairball" Petty; July 23, 2013 at 2:44 PM
TTBurnett said...: This comment has been removed by the author.; July 23, 2013 at 2:50 PM
Chip S. said...: Damn, that reminds me that I neglected to blog about the passing of Dick Trickle a couple of months ago. Another opportunity for cheap, juvenile humor missed.

How I hate to pass those up.; July 23, 2013 at 2:51 PM
Michael Haz said...: So we should all call him Richard Petty. Dick for short.

Do NOT sully the good name of Richard Petty!; July 23, 2013 at 4:48 PM

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