But he seems to be ok.
I have heard from Palladian and he is doing much better. Several people have stepped up and he can see his way clear now until he gets back on his feet in the fall.
Now we can go back to making fun of the fucking bastard with a clear conscience.
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Meade and Palladian are going @ it again.
Where at, spinelli
Has turdboy submitted copyrights for his and Althouse's name yet?
I think his next demand will be to be made a mod over there. And there seem to be two people who'll think it's a good idea.
Just as long as it is not Freeman Hunt.
Then it will only be her and Meade commenting over there.
Two really good posts over there at Freeman's blog.
One is pimping Mrs. Spinelli's book, which will be a real test of Lawnboy's rule of engagement.
The other is a pic of a bridegroom caught w/o a handkerchief.
Mr. Ahoy misspelled "blowin' away", tho.
Two really good posts over there at Freeman's blog.
New blog name suggestion:
"Freems" w/comments enabled.
Cleaner version: "Comments Enabled"
"Drama Triangles" would add a math component.
"Victim, Persecutor, Rescuer"
With a ready to use logo and site map.
"Segments and Vertices"
I think MamaM just covered what I wanted to know.
BTW, I AM buying the book.
rhhardin's style is infectious.
MamaM said...
Cleaner version: "Comments Enabled"
"Drama Triangles" would add a math component.
Too obtuse and possibly acute.
Do you have a link on how to help the fat bastard?
But he is only getting fish or chicken burgers from me!
Where is the thread where Meade and Palladian are going at it again? The same old one or a new one?
I think you can just send money on paypal by using his email address that is on the blog. You can send it person to person without a purchase through paypal.
Much of the original blowup at Lem's about Meade and Palladian, including Meade's totally disgusting back stabbing attack has been deleted by Meade and Lem. Nobody was proud of that episode, but man it was an eye opener about the management of TOP.
I just tried to register at Insty, 'cause that could be interesting. But it's a PJ Media site, which I'm already registered for.
Not that I can remember my password. Nor that the site's refresher actually reaches my email.
So I thought I'd just re-register. "Bitmaelstrom" is already taken as a screen name?
I gotta hope that's me! I've seen other DBQs, but I am the only Bitmaelstrom, dammit!
I knew that would get deleted! Weasel.
Which thread are Palladian and Meade on?
The original one was way back at the beginning of yesterday with 435 comments, after that there was a blizzard of posts put up.
It's here:
http://comonocreerendios-lem.blogspot.com/search?updated-max=2013-07-23T03:12:00-04:00&max-results=7&start=21&by-date=false
Thanks bagoh. I've read that one - Nick seemed to be saying they are going at it anew somewhere.
As much fun as it was in the beginning at Lem's, it is one giant snooze fest right now. I like Chip Ahoy....in small doses. It seems like it is Chip, Freeman and the Meade and Inga show.
I'm not interested.
I think that's exactly what Meade wants, DBQ. Which is part of why I want to support the blog.
But if they keep coddling Meade, I'm out.
That's not true DBQ, there is a lot of Crack Emcee, some new unlurked, lots of posts (too many in my opinion), and of course me, and I'm sober till Friday.
And to Darcy, Meade heard his dog whistle today and started in on RHHardin, who of course, didn't engage him. Nothing much and it was over quick.
Lem would be wise to relocate his blog to WordPress, which allows blocking individual commenters.
Yes, you can just paypal directly (from paypal, not his website). The email address on the "contact" info works.
And Inga's only comment since yesterday morning was a single "BOO!!!"
It's getting away from the Althouse obsession pretty well now. It is it's own place now. Like it or not, the thing is an experiment in commenter driven content. It will succeed or not based on the commenters.
On rhhardin?
Again, I find that astonishing. He's going after what seemed to be A's very favorite commenters. Maybe because their presence at CH constitutes treason?
What next, attacks on Chip Ahoy?
LOL at Pollo's new post at CH.
You've got chutzpah, chicken.
Of course right after I say it's not about Althouse anymore, Pollo puts up a post all about them. Which is cool - it's pretty much the first one actually on the subject, but I timed my comment poorly.
I double-dare Meade not to laugh at himself.
I get the impression, nobody in that house laughs at themselves, ever.
Nobody was proud of that episode, but man it was an eye opener about the management of TOP.
bagoh: You can say that again! Unbelievable. God knows, Palladian was my bête noir on Althouse, but his getting that treatment after everything and all those years was literally the most shocking thing I've seen on the internet.
Excepting, of course, Trooper in shorts and a Hawaiian shirt.
bagoh20 said...
get the impression, nobody in that house laughs at themselves, ever.
That's possible, but sad if true.
I just saw Pollo's post!
I'm laughing so hard, the tears have washed the coffee stains off my keyboard. People are starting to stick their heads in the office.
Their suspicions are getting confirmed.
Thank you, bagoh. :)
and lol, Bruce. That new post is hilarious. Genius.
Blimply selicious!
Dell Won, El Pollo, Dell Won!!
In the fullness of time the perfect window for presentation opened, as honor, humor and poke!
Lem's gonna kill me for posting that. It might be my last...
The title, Mann and Eade seems especially fine and fitting, as it brings to mind Adam and Eve and the casting out of the Garden that resulted from the desire to know good and evil.
Some stories are as old as time.
Astute, MamaM!
It might be my last...
Going out with a bang!
I'd listened to that chirbit before, chicken, forgot to tell you, though it was genius.
Lem's view of the Slogoblear could used some adjusting
If it's your last, 'tis a helluva way to go!
Playing with the queen of hearts
And knowing it ain't really smart
The joker ain't the only fool
Who'll do anything for you
You're right about edutcher, yashu. I wonder if she realizes the slap she gave him. I had good fun with "Mr. Ed" but it was all done in fun. The one where I tried to capture ed's heartfelt feelings and her meanness was this one: link
crickets are heard at the end...
El Pollo, The third thing that makes it fun, beyond the story and words is your tone!
He's going after what seemed to be A's very favorite commenters. Maybe because their presence at CH constitutes treason?
Well I guess that means I'm safe
:-)
Summer is here. I am keeping busy. Yet more tasks remain.
To propitiate the gods of heat I built a big fire. Mmm, fire good.
Also, when the fire is going it is easier to clean up the shop - keep this odd but good looking scrap of wood or burn it?
BURN IT!!!
Ever see the flame front when sawdust is thrown on a fire and it explodes? That is an endlessly fascinating thing to observe.
Back to work.
Mucking farvelous, Chick.
Chick, fitto what Hichael Maz said.
I asked Lem to put me on the blog roll, but I suspect that will be voted down by the League of Accomodating Meadhousians.
By the way, died you read the commenter "livermoon" posting at Insty in the Ampersand story? Insty links to TOP and livermoon posts a takedown. Sounds Mary-ish.
Haz, Too sane and measured for Mary.
"maimed Need"
chick, I could be wrong, but I think some of those Meade folks are having their eyes opened. I wouldn't sweat it. It was a funny and clever post.
...I suspect that will be voted down...
Which takes me back to my confusion over what is meant or intended by the name "Comment Home".
Which definition of home is being referenced?
-The place where one lives permanently?
-the social unit formed by a family living together?
-a familiar or usual setting?
-an establishment providing residence and care for people with special need?
-the objective in various games?
idwestern muniversities
law faux-pressor
blabulous fog
detracted aily visitors
cog blo-mentors
tend their spime writing warky snit
lunny fun whiners
dear-ious sis-cussions
curtain saw-mentor
maimed Need
con-line ourtship
cunny foments
hilled with fapiness
fake a tense
hounced off in a fluff
peefully glounced
Too Nork Yimes
rear deeders
baken attack
Kickey Maus, the slogger from Blate
bloated nogger
blimply sogged
vexchanged ows
hived lappily
Etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. etc.
Genius.
Looks like DBQ has outed "Inga" in the door click thread.
I said my piece over there. I will go on trying my best to ignore them both.
I asked Lem to put me on the blog roll, but I suspect that will be voted down by the League of Accomodating Meadhousians.
I don't think there's anything like a vote over there. It's still largely Lem in charge. (I foresee problems with that arrangement, if that is the set-up.)
And I wouldn't be too hard on Lem about what is meant by this or that. It's still very much a seat-of-the-pants operation, and he and they are still figuring things out. Hell, the blog is only 16 days old!
...
As for what's going on with lawnboy and the reception he gets over at CH, I think that has more to do with a combination of perceptions built up over time (emotional inertia) and the fact that Lem and Freeman are basically decent people, and they just might not get how toxic lawnboy has become.
Those of us who have had the "privilege" of being around batshit crazy before are going to perceive things differently. And as it is, I didn't really understand just how bad it is until I saw the Palladian shit last night. (I'd only been checking in sporadically since last Friday.) Mostly I had been assuming lawnboy had his share of butthurt (as do so many) and was just being a bit of a jerk, so I was ignoring him. So it wasn't until I saw everyone alluding to a big blow up with P that I knew anything really bad had happened.
I just wouldn't be that hard on Lem or even Freeman over this issue. At least not yet.
69th! Yeah, baby!
Yashu, you distilled all the essence from the chirbit. Now see, isn't there enough snark to go around? Something for everyone. No one should feel targeted.
Thank you!
Nastiness in Fantasyland.
Ha! Her posts today include emails from "long time readers of her blog" who JUST noticed comments are turned off. I call BS.
Ha! Her posts today include emails from "long time readers of her blog" who JUST noticed comments are turned off. I call BS.
Long time readers, but apparently they've missed all of July.
Also, why even give her any traffic? It's clear now that we shouldn't be giving her any clicks at all.
Also? Fewer pictures of fat slobs, and more pictures of chicks in hot pants, please!
bagoh20 said...
Much of the original blowup at Lem's about Meade and Palladian, including Meade's totally disgusting back stabbing attack has been deleted by Meade and Lem. Nobody was proud of that episode, but man it was an eye opener about the management of TOP.
I think it gets worse. I'm pretty damned sure now that he fed my name to a certain person, which then led to what happened to me yesterday. It was awfully convenient when I emailed him from my gmail address under nothing but good intentions at the time to respond to TOP's shutting down comments and having Meade become the comments monitor and I sent in my 2 cents. After that, and I didn't realize it, he had my name. Soon after, I am now in this position by you know who and the only way she could have gotten it was from him since I don't email any of you or anyone else.
I put two and two together last night and it all makes sense to me now. I'm beyond pissed at this point, but I gotta keep it cool.
yashu said...
It's so revealing that Inga & Meade are a tag team now.
Makes even more sense after what I just deduced yesterday.
Makes even more sense after what I just deduced yesterday.
They've been a tag team since day one.
Icepick said...
Also? Fewer pictures of fat slobs, and more pictures of chicks in hot pants, please!
One rule at Trooper's is that you can complain all you want about the scenery and it stays the same even when it changes. Hang around longer and you'll figure this out. :)
Methadras, you are (unfortunately) an example of why no one should trust Meade. Ever.
Evi L. Bloggerlady said...
Methadras, you are (unfortunately) an example of why no one should trust Meade. Ever.
It wasn't so much about trust. I don't even know the guy and I had zero issue with him. I just never thought that he would do something like that. I was wrong and I didn't see it or even think it was a possibility until it hit me when i was trying to revive my computer. I'm typing all of this on my phone. What a pain. When it struck me I was like WTF, no way, oh shit, then I got pissed that this motherfucker would give my name to that person so it could be used against me.
I'm sure there is a self-satisfying smugness that they are basking in. I'll tell you what though, I've got relatives that live in Detroit... nuff said.
Yashu, what can I do? I just gotta shrug it off and move along.
I think you're taking the right approach, Meth, and as others here have advised.
Keep cool, don't engage with toxic and crazy.
Go upding my comment to Glenn Reynolds about Meade and his mower...
http://pjmedia.com/instapundit/172945/
Oh shit! Now you got me scared. A few years back they said they were planning on coming to Los Angeles for a vacation, and although I was a complete stranger except as a commenter, I invited them to stay at my house whether I was home or out of town at the time. I sent them my email and home address.
You don't think they would be evil enough to send Inga over here do you? That is some scary shit right there, but Meade has been acting unhinged.
"Sorry bag, I know you like her-- and you're one of my very favorite commenters-- but I just can't stand her.)"
Oh no, I just feel sorry for her, especially when people go Genghis Kahn on her, which just pushes my chivalry button.
"If TOP opens comments again, may they by populated by just a gaggle of Inga sockpuppets."
If you don't use it first, I'm gonna ask Meade if that's his plan the next time he raises his head.
I invited them to stay at my house whether I was home or out of town at the time. I sent them my email and home address.
OMG....MOVE!. Just kidding. Change your email address....not kidding.
There is something seriously wrong in this scenario of Althouse and Meade. I do believe that Trooper has is right. Grifter, user, abuser and a needy compliant wealthy aging woman.
This is the link you need to up-ding
Because Meade has that going for him!
Meanwhile, I engage in a civilized exchange with Professor Reynolds about his link to a certain lawnboy.
Ruth Ann Adams, your comments are quite civilized about mowing. But given Meade's recent behavior, I can't understand why anyone who has seen him in action would defend him.
Meanwhile, in a remote corner of the internet, I completely ignore Althouse and Meade and spend some time on a different liar.
Evi,
I've got no beef with Reynolds. I was tweaking Meade. I was completely on-topic. Reynolds balked at my take and I backed off. I saw what Meade did the other night to Palladian. The horror. Pure evil. You can't un-see that.
You know how self-conscious Meade is about his lack of education...so I was poking at that scab. Reynolds, a law professor!, mocking a mere lawn boy.
It's a little sly, but I'm sure he'll get it.
Now Meade is on Lem's blog claiming that what he did to Palladian was okay - just a business matter, and since Palladian publicly offers his art there is no reason why an issue between vendor and purchaser cannot be publicly discussed.
Satan.
And Hi! RuthAnne.
Hiya, Mikey! Best to the divine Mrs. H.
I dunno about you guys, but on those rare occasions when I feel that I've made the right decision on a relatively important matter, I don't tend to obsess about it and revisit it for weeks afterward.
I do tend to do that when I fear that I've fucked up, tho.
Thanks! And boy howdy to your co-warrior and brood.
When are y'all coming to the Carolinas for a visit? We just repainted the guest suite.
Haz,
Can you direct me to the appropriate post? I cannot wade thru everything over at Lem's without getting lost in the deep, dark forest.
Yessiree, Chip. If it was a righteous decision, remorse should not be a factor.
If they can't let go of it and move along, they positively confirm that their personality issues were largely the problem. Just move on and ignore the remnants and the dust would have settled by now.
RuthAnne, I don't think I can, but I'd suggest that Chickie could. Meade went back a day later and deleted his comments, so an archived copy will be required.
RAA - which post do you mean? The one in which he went after Palladian or something else?
Deletions? Maybe there's a shred of humanity expressing some remorse.
Aw, who'm I kidding?
The one you referenced here at 11:09 p.m. tonight.
I saw the carnage in Chip's Vortex post the other night almost in real time.
Ruth, I understand. You were being subtle. But most people won't get that. That's why I went a little more direct with the Carl reference.
I also love the pitchfork in that scene.
Evi,
But I like Carl. So he's got dat goin' for him.
Which is good.
Did y'all catch the Bush 41 pic of his newly-shaved head to show solidarity with the little tyke who's going thru cancer treatment-induced hair loss?
Reminded me of Dr. Evil/Mini-me. But I had forgotten that his own daughter Robin died of a childhood cancer 60 years ago. The man is a gentleman with an indomitable sense of noblesse oblige.
I just heard the reason why the horse neighed everytime they said "Frau Blucher" in Young Frankenstein.
"Blucher" is German for "glue."
(that's FronkenSTEEN)
Ruth, I like Carl too. But I am sure Meade does not.
Meade wants to be Ty Webb. But he lacks everything (talent and humor wise) Chase had, but definitely has down Chevy Chase's personality.
Really, Blucher means glue? I thought it was German for Meade.
The Bush picture actually got me a bit verklempt...
Meade signed off of further hindrance of Lem's blog. The blog is on tenuous ground and completely depends on the good will and intent of participants.
Pictures of kids w/ serious diseases always get to me.
It troubles me like few or no other things about life.
Ruth Anne- I believe it was on the car door clicks thread. I just went there and searched and cannot find it. There are, however, a lot of "comments removed by author"
I also searched my saved notifications and it no longer appears there. I suspect he deleted it.
OH MY GOD.
Why won't the damn admins let us use Blogger at work?
Chickie's 3:41 CH post is the best entry ever done. Can't believe I'm just seeing it now.
Nice work!
bagoh: By way of establishing my bona fides, I sent her my particulars at the time the source of Sir Archy and blogging cockroach was revealed.
That was also the time I discovered how casually arrogant she could be. I'll explain more later, but I was surprised how ungracious she was in an initial e-mail, when most people would be at their most polite.
But it was a minor issue, and I thought "tone deaf" at the time. It took more to convince me of "screw loose," but convinced I was about 3 years ago.
I think the screws have all fallen out, and it's now "unhinged," but for that, I don't think there's anything to worry about, as long as we remain shadowy grumblers with plenty of company.
Pollo, how was that done? He seems to change his mind every day.
@11:35 I think it will work out pretty well, Chickie.
Keep your fingers crossed but I have a good feeling that it will do fine.
It's like my new nightly ritual. As was TOP at times, but without the vitriol.
I'm pretty sure the vast majority of regulars will respect it and tend well to it. You might end up having an agitator or fly in the ointment here or there, but the vast majority of well-established participants, their common history, the sprinkling of cordiality and respected intellectual diversity, and a relative disinterest in blog entries designed solely to provoke or agitate seem like fine ingredients for success.
Kampai!
Meade's Last Word?
Hey Ruth Anne, I think you might be able to get a couple of bets down on that one.
Ruth Anne - found it. In the Mann and Eade thread at 10:37 PM.
Found it. I let the Dowager Countess, Lady Violet speak for me.
Just went over to take a look.
Wow, chick, great post! They "vexchanged owe" indeed.
At first I thought, too bad this classic post got sullied, as it were, by Meade. But if it's the site of his Last Comment, then the whole package is perfect.
Hello all.
I just wanted to stop by and say thank you for all the kindness you guys have shown me over the past few days. It's been a rough time for me lately and it really lifted my spirits to realize that so many "strangers" had my back.
My apologies if I haven't yet responded to everyone's emails yet. I've had intermittent access to the internet where I'm staying, but I'm online tonight so I will write back to everyone then.
Again, thank you all for your thoughts and help. I'll write a bit more here later.
I have a question: can Laurence Meade or Ann Althouse read our comments here?
Okay then. It's late. And quoting Dale Earnhardt, Jr "I bid you a Dew".
I have a question: can Laurence Meade or Ann Althouse read our comments here?
Dear Lord I sure hope not but with a guy as popular as Troop and eyes as prying as Larry's you never know.
BTW, I thought "Larry" yesterday would be a good reference for unmentionable names. Plus, it's another "l"-word. No, not lesbian. The one having to do with green turf. Funny that a whole post in defense of said activity (replete with lame-ass Who lyrics) was uploaded the other day.
Glad you're holding up ok there, Palladian.
Palladian: Supposedly not. This blog is private. But they've been remarkably up-to-date with doings on this blog at various times in the past. Some here think it was a mole, probably Titus, and not a Blogger issue. I think the best view of it is "reasonably secure."
Only if you trust every single person Trooper gave access here.
The key thing is that they can't comment here.
It feels like a hell of a great refuge now and I think the strengthening status of the other place (certain unwarranted attacks notwithstanding - even though the immensely popular reactions and overwhelming support against said attacks speaks volumes) helps. Mole was exactly the word I wanted to use (are we on some unstoppable garden noun kick?) but that would be great if a mole in the past has been ejected since.
I sure hope so.
BTW, although I said "the other place" I most certainly did not mean "TOP". Wow, that mistake made me feel stupid.
I meant, the anti-TOP. The other other place. Chickie's and Lem's and Synova's and Deborah's (and others') place.
That place.
bagoh: I trust Trooper's judgement. But you're right, nothing's perfect, so that's why I've pruned some of my more purple prose and run the edger around the sidewalks.
I've got to get rid of gardening references.
bagoh20 said...
Only if you trust every single person Trooper gave access here.
Bagoh20 is right. Even after Titus got booted, he seemed to know things that happened afterwards (IMO).
Stand behind anything you write here, Palladian, as is your right, and so shall we (OK, sixty gets abrasive, but he has his charms).
We live and write freely here, though we may be being watched. Right, NSA?
You're among friends here, at least and at most.
The game is indeed a curious one.
Methadras, do you recall how the name of the commenter who revealed Inga's Name entered the thread and and who brought it up? It appears as if you may have been set up more than once.
July 16, 2013
Blogger Methadras said
fionamcgee said...
Hail Darcy full of grace
The Grit is with thee
Blessed art thou among women and blessed is the fruit of thy womb, sixty Grit.
Inga or Althouse? Looks like the vapid clawing and backstabbing is beginning in earnest.
July 16, 2013 at 8:31 PM
Blogger Methadras said...
Hazy Dave said...
"Infinity TIMES infinity."
(Mimes head exploding.)
I like exponential infinities: Infinity ^ Infinity
July 16, 2013 at 8:35 PM
Blogger deborah said...
Who was the commenter who revealed Inga's last name?
July 16, 2013 at 8:47 PM
Blogger edutcher said...
Which identity are we talking?
She's also Mitochondri-Allie and Apfelkuchen and Allie Oop.
July 16, 2013 at 8:55 PM
Blogger deborah said...
The big to-do where a commenter revealed the poster known as Inga's last name. She became very upset and insisted Althouse delete her last name. My question is who was that guy? Where did he go?
July 16, 2013 at 8:58 PM
Blogger Inga said...
"Who was the commenter who revealed Inga's last name?"
July 16, 2013 at 8:47 PM
It was Methadras, aka ****** ******
BOOM.
Trooper just stopped bothering w/ allusion over at TNOP.
The thing is no one says anything here that would not stand the light of day. At least I don't think so. I was pretty careful who I let in stopping three people for everyone I let in.
But that doesn't matter. What mattes is the threads are not ruined by the ongoing nonsense of Inga who I tolerated for way too long. It is obvious to me that she is in cahoots with Meade in some way. I think he is using her because that is what grifters do.
I tolerated Titus for a long time because he amused me. But his attacks on other commenters here became to much and he had to go over the side.
So this is a place to say what you want. We have nothing to hide.
I spoke my piece over at that thread.
There should be an explosion soon. Get ready.
"TNOP"?
Troop: I'm pretty sure she never spoke to Larry (You know who... i.e. Yoko) or she would have told me. Same with Larry's wife.
That said, perhaps they've gotten desperate enough to contact her since. But I doubt even that. Some of us they just damn well hated more than even the others, I'm pretty sure of that.
What did you go and do now? (Kidding). I'll try to take a look.
Stand behind anything you write here, Palladian, as is your right, and so shall we
Oh I don't really plan to say anything much about them. But I don't want to ever discuss them or mention them in a public place again, and I just wondered how public/private it is in here.
I like to be open and honest, and I put a good bit of private information out in public, but I'm also intensely private in a lot of ways and it really, really upset me to be violated by Laurence Meade in public like that, especially his reference to what I owed to my previous landlord, like he had a dossier on my private life. It really scares me, and I'm already especially fragile lately.
Well now I am getting into it with chief enabler Freeman Hunt so this should be fun.
Oh and by the way ....Palladian don't be such a faggot. We have your back stupid.
I had a few drinks at dinner by way. Just so you know.
By a few drinks I mean six capirinas, three glasses of Chianti and a couple of pops of Limoncello.
Just sayn'
TTBurnett, I want to apologize for any pain that I caused you and your family in the past. It wasn't my intention. I have an ... abrasive... style (ISO P20 grit, to be exact) and it sometimes gets the better of me. Some commenters deserve it, and some don't, and you didn't. It really touched me that, despite what I said in the past, you were still concerned about my situation. A humbling thing, and I just wanted to make amends.
Oh and by the way ....Palladian don't be such a faggot.
A real man can be comfortably sensitive, you old mick.
That's limp dick mick to you pally.
And about that picture on this post...
I shovel it in with a knife and fork!
Dayumn. That's some nice tolerance of drink.
Freeman I don't get all that much in how she mediates things but then she's just one of nine. And bound to get ravenously equivocating in her mediation. Her exposure to blogworld is small but significant (if that 2008 video is any indication) so she's just being protective in any way she can while attempting to look uber-fair.
I don't know what's been deleted so far over the past few days but the long and the short of it is evil people's doings, including Larry Yoko's, are bound to limited at this point and ever more dwindling ever after.
Unless all those people who keep checking back await the day when comments return.
The other - NOT other - place ensures that there's no need for it, though.
Let it build itself. Don't worry about Freeman too much. Even if she sacrifices good judgment for the appearance of absolutist impartiality, she's no narcissist or Yoko Ono.
Things will be better from here on out. Trust fate. I'm not infallible but I've got a pretty good feeling about it.
Ritmo, the "N" in my formulation was for "New", not "Not".
Why don't we just call it "TOOP"?
The other other place.
Trooper: Freeman must have had some mentoring from EBL or for whatever reason still just respects her way too much to worry about any boat rocking that involves Larry Yoko, even if it's entirely his fault. She's just like that sometimes. I'd make a political analogy but I'm trying to avoid that these days. The basic story is, she thinks she can satisfy all parties and is looking at the best incoming advice (from you) as interference. Of course, she can't please all the people and few people want her to but that won't stop her from trying, or at least from doing her damnedest to look like she's trying.
But then, her psychology was never as transparent to me as it was among some of the other former neighbors.
Biting my tongue over there.
Thank god for Trooper York's.
Meade went back a day later and deleted his comments, so an archived copy will be required.
Meade did not delete those comments, Freeman Hunt did.
I think it would be foolhardy to believe that they're not monitoring here.
The key thing, as noted, is that they can't post and ruin it.
Listen Ritmo I know Freeman types.
She is the teachers pet who looks down on the juvenile delinquents who are in the back of the class smoking cigarettes and looking at porno. Like me and Spinelli. All prim and proper and above reproach.
So I have to admit she rubs me the wrong way. I am trying to be restrained but capirinas don't lend themselves to restrain. Just sayn'
Ruth Anne says concisely what needed to be said at TP.
(Our other tries seem to have too many notes, Ritmo.)
Thank you, Palladian. I appreciate that.
This situation has revealed a lot more than I ever thought possible about the character of people in our online lives. While it is partly play and fantasy, it affects real worlds. I've learned a huge amount from this, and I think there's more coming. But I do want to thank everyone here, at least, for standing up for what's right.
It's been at least an hour since I've turned into a pumpkin, so I've got to say goodnight.
Troops right. But I always liked Freeman. That said she doesn't have a lick of common sense when it comes to Meade and Ann.
But she saw what happened to Paladian. And it did bother her. She has not fully processed it yet.
As always Ruth Anne is right.
I am going to shut up now as Inga has made an appearance and who needs that shit.
Instead I will be posting Marco Polo photos.
Freeman Hunt would be well and truly shocked if she knew what really went on here.
I don't think she'd approve of dirty Betty Rubble at all.
Ann Althouse emailed me after I cc'ed her in my email to Meade, requesting that he leave me alone and stop posting my personal information.
Apparently it's all my fault, and I deserved what her husband did to me.
Ugh. As much as I try to forget it, it still really hurts. But I have other things to worry about.
It would be a good thing if you said that publicly but I respect the fact that it might be too painful for you.
So remember who has your back you big homo you.
Wow.
Even after all this, I'd imagined that she was embarrassed by his behavior at TP. Now it's clear that she's as ill as he is.
Freeman Hunt has been very kind to me, giving me leads on freelance jobs and checking on me several times after that L Meade incident.
She's a good person in my book.
By the way Big Brooklyn Style is being shown overseas and all these gay latin and Arab guys are signing up to our facebook page. I might send them over to you.
I think we are being televised in a Turkish prison.
Palladian!
Good to see you! And even better to see you and Tim have made up.
That's why TY's is a community and Althouse isn't.
Hey I don't tell other people how to feel about other people. That's up to you. If you are my friend I will go to the wall for you. But if you are not I would not piss on you if you were on fire.
But I don't ask anybody else to sign on to that. Everyone's experience is different.
I know Freeman types.
She is the teachers pet...
Well, as always your judgment is good and I can respect that analysis.
I should now proceed to delete my Rodney King-esque statements at the other other place.
If you so desire.
I guess if Freeman is a teacher's pet then there's no reason not to do so, as she's got her mission and don't need my stinking peanut gallerying anyway.
You're right again.
Even after all this, I'd imagined that she was embarrassed by his behavior at TP. Now it's clear that she's as ill as he is.
You have no idea. She sent me a very, very troubling email today. After all my affection for her, all my defenses of her, all those years of reading and writing, private exchanges, even hanging out in person a number of times, she blamed it all on me, as if I used her and hurt her. It was all my fault. I'm a fraud, a back stabber, a loser, a whiner....
I don't think she has any idea how much she hurt me. As I wrote back to her, I want nothing to do with them, as thinking about it only causes me pain.
Palladian I think most of us know what it's like to be stabbed in the back by someone we least expected it from. Someone who we trusted, opened up to and put our neck out with. I know I do. I've trusted a lot of people, often out of necessity, and hoped that if I treated them very well and decent that it would be near impossible for them to fuck me over. Sorry, it's just not true. People are either decent or they are not. You just have to protect yourself. It's too bad, but it's just a fact. The thing is, it makes the people who don't let you down even more amazing to have in your life.
But I don't ask anybody else to sign on to that. Everyone's experience is different.
Oh, absolutely. Your mileage may vary.
You don't think they would be evil enough to send Inga over here do you? That is some scary shit right there, but Meade has been acting unhinged.
Well, that's what you get for putting her panties on your Doberman. You really need to be more careful with whose panties you use.
Troop could install some stuff to find out who's visiting, of course....
It's funny how sometimes other people see stuff that we totally miss.
When I first started hanging out at TOP about 2 yrs ago, my gf at the time took one glance at the site and told me AA was a horrible person. Like an idiot, I disagreed w/ her.
Now trying to find her ph no somewhere...
Troop - I think the thing here (and I said as much over there that I can or at least probably should delete) is that you and I and maybe some others have a bit of I told you so-itis... You know what I mean? And I think Freeman just came as late as Palladian to understanding how unrestrained they could be. She's just trying to save herself some embarrassment, maybe? I don't think that's the worst thing. As long as you make her realize with canine, olfactory memory that this is entirely natural and predictable of them, then you've done your job.
And I think she knows it. If nothing else, the comments over there tonight, should they remain in perpetuity, sort of guarantee it.
My friendship is to you though so advise as you see fit what you want me to do with my comments over there and I'll proceed accordingly.
Things are going better than I think is obvious. A huge battle's already been won. It's tempting to further direct and divide spoils, but I think there will be enough plenty from here on out for anyone who wants a piece.
Palladian I think most of us know what it's like to be stabbed in the back by someone we least expected it from. Someone who we trusted, opened up to and put our neck out with.
I know you're right. But, believe it or not, it's never happened to me before like this. After many years of living in New York and dealing with some of the most emotionally and morally degraded people on earth (the New York art world), I have never been betrayed and hurt by anyone as badly as Althouse and her husband have hurt me. Maybe it's because I'm a bit younger than some of you, I don't know.
Sorry, it's just not true. People are either decent or they are not. You just have to protect yourself. It's too bad, but it's just a fact.
I know. It's very hard for me. As an "autism spectrum" person, I have a very difficult time "reading" people. I trust people. I know I'm very smart, and I should be able to figure things out, but I'm also very naive about people and very bad at shielding myself from poisonous people. I want to believe that God is in everyone, that some deep and vital current of God's goodness is in every person and can be accessed, but I guess that's not the case.
Meade signed off of further hindrance of Lem's blog. The blog is on tenuous ground and completely depends on the good will and intent of participants.
Hmmm, that's not how I read it.
What I noted early on was that, unlike most blogs, Althouse was not a community, it was a show. So, a lot of the cues for a community were missing.
If you look at Ace of Spades HQ, for example, there are regular references to people in the community, front-paged. Weekly features, even.
Reynolds even does this, and he doesn't even have commenters (or didn't used to).
" God's goodness is in every person and can be accessed, but I guess that's not the case."
It's all in the timing. If you get there before God, well it's always better to be fashionably late.
By the way Big Brooklyn Style is being shown overseas and all these gay latin and Arab guys are signing up to our facebook page. I might send them over to you.
Oh please do! I love brown hog.
Hmmm, that's not how I read it.
Me neither, Icepick. Take it from someone who's seen enough blog conflicts in life.
There's just nothing more they can do. The entire country packed and moved and left the kind and queen alone in old real estate to stew and bitch and moan. What more can they do? Maybe to those more used to playing "nice" there is a bit of an uneasy feeling. I can understand that. Freedom is like that.
Of course, I don't put it past the king and queen to try something pathologically devious in retaliation, but doesn't what happened two nights ago already count?
If nothing else, narcissists guard their reputation intensely. Meade's attack was the nail in the coffin to the blow that was her subjects' repopulation elsewhere.
Leave Althouse to Cedarford. He's like the only chump that didn't accompany the move. But xenophobes are like that. Heh. It'll be Meade and Ann and C-Fudd, sitting around a fire, roasting marshmallows, bemoaning their lost fortunes and the return of better days.
While a few dozens or more keep looking forward to a better future.
Don't worry, Chickie. It's all in the clear from here.
Palladian don't be such a faggot. We have your back stupid.
Uh, isn't that contradictory advice?
Palladian, I am sorry you had to go through this.
I CAN'T SORT THIS SHIT OUT!
I'LL LET TOMORROW SORT IT OUT!
PLEASE DELETE ANYTHING YOU DONT WANT ME TO SEE
now!
I hate to talk about Freeman here because I know that she thinks that what we do all the time. Talk about Althouse and all her friends. Hey they get a few shots now and then but nothing like Spinelli.
Of course Spinelli deserves it.
Ritmo if you want my opinion don't delete anything. It is like that douchebag from Saturday Night Live sang at the funeral.
It's all dust in the wind.
lol
Has Will Ferrell in "Old School" made that song his own?
Maybe it's an NPP/ borderline combo.
I think that's entirely plausible. Meade seems to relish a certain kind of ambiguity. Psychological ambiguity.
I psychologize, because (stupid naive me) I still find it hard to accept that people can just be so shitty. Just plain shitty.
Some people just lack what normal people have. You don't have to see it through a psychological lens, but it's there and explains it just as well, either way.
Look at it this way: A psychological defect can be no less gruesome than a physical amputation. Remember the Afghani girl missing a nose from the acid attack to her face? Well, certain psychological attributes, when missing, can look no less grotesque.
Look Palladian don't sweat it that you didn't see them for what they are.
I remember the night you and me and Althouse had drinks at that little joint on Henry St. next to Noodle Pudding. She was a drunken mess then and all she wanted to do was guess which guy was Titus in the bar and wanted to know if she should ban him. When somebody does that then I wonder what makes me think she won't do the same thing to me when I am not around.
But then the tell tale thing happened. When the check came she did not pull her weight. You and I laid the wood so to speak. I remember shit like that. If MichaelH or chickie or Bags or Ritmo or Icepick or Ruth Anne or DBQ or Darcy or anybody else who posts here were there that would not have happened. So she turned to shit in my eyes then.
It just took other people longer to catch on.
I always judge people by how they treat the waiter.
In all my time online, in all my experience on message boards or blogs etc., I don't think I've ever personally witnessed behavior so cruel (considering the entire context of the thing, e.g. your longstanding prior relationship with the 2 of them).
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