Showing posts with label what the fuck do you know. Show all posts
Showing posts with label what the fuck do you know. Show all posts

Saturday, August 16, 2014

Sometimes you just have to laugh


I am currently in two arguments because I am stuck in the store and I am bored senseless. The renovation is at a standstill as the idiot cab drivers are busy or something and I have to make alternative arrangements. So I am sitting in the store behind the wall and trying to be quiet because women who are talking about their unmentionables don't want a dude to hear them. I don't have to be in the front to sell because I have a full staff in anticipation of the new store starting.

Sooooo I went on Previously TV and continued my campaign to rough up Carole Radziwill who is a hero to a certain type of politically correct feminist who frequents that site. Of course it is one of the sites where they issue warnings and ban you at the drop of a hat. So you have to be careful and not speak the truth because the truth will get you banned toot suite. But it is still amusing to stick up for Aviva the leg throwing lunatic and battering around the "cool" hipster douche.

Then I went to Lem's joint to the Rick Perry thread where one of our favorite shit stirrers is taking a contrary opinion just to stir it up.  This is not the first time we have tangled recently and I am getting increasingly less amused. Then of course a dirty bird had to show up to shit all over the thread. Which is a giant warning sign to leave it alone. Now I can understand how a video of a professional with a reputation for drinking could make him upset because a video showing them drunk might be used against them. It could be used against a lot of people. Doctors. Accounts. Lawyers. Professors. It is why some of them stopped Vblogging.

I would love to make that point but I have a policy of not engaging these peoples.

Wednesday, August 22, 2012

Blake tells it like it is......and I have to agree




Our good buddy Blake recently posted a great little speil that I found both illuminating and true...


Almost every online community I've ever been a part of, or even examined in retrospect for historical purposes, has ultimately dissolved. Of those that are still around, most are spiraling the drain. As someone who's been online now for over 20 years(!), it's kind of interesting to me to examine why, and also why there are a few that persist.

The simplest answer to why could probably be reduced to: It's just too big a pain in the ass to maintain. There's not a lot of money in it most of the time. Most of the time, there's no money at all. But I've seen this happen on CompuServe in the pre-web days, too, where genuine income streams were given up rather than put up with the hassle.

But hassles—serious ones, anyway—don't just arise. They're created.

And it always unfolds the same way. There is always (at least) one person who is at cross-purposes with the community. You could call them "trolls" but that's not really comprehensive enough a word. "Traitor" would be a good word, even though they often wouldn't see themselves that way, like Benedict Arnold, or someone who's trying to save the community from itself.

I was in one community where a person like that came in with about five others and systematically and cruelly mocked the regulars. The owner decided "free speech" and those people managed to drive off almost everyone who had made that place their home for years. Most of the locusts, as I envisioned them, left pretty soon after that, including the main troll who managed to offend the owner. trounce the rules, etc., enough to be ejected.

That was a particularly dramatic example. Usually, the treasonous ones are subtler, because in most cases the person who owns the community will defend overt attacks, and people will naturally bind together and fight off interlopers. So, they're covert.

The most insidious ones can foment trouble without ever being fingered. Or even better, for a community's destruction, they can become a bone of contention around which people side. Best of all is if they can fracture a community along principled lines. "Free speech" is a popular one. "I don't want to hang out in a place where we aren't free to post pictures of dismembered babies!"

The people who are like this can be hard to spot, especially if you're guileless. They present a picture of trammeled innocence. They were just minding their own business when baseless attacks were suddenly leveled.

It's never a regular dispute, where people blow up, and then they either get over it (or they leave): A slight is never forgotten, and is always repaid, and repaid, and repaid. Slowly but surely the troll drains the fun out of the community while increasing the burden on the community owner. It's not a wonder that online communities eventually dissolve, but they stay together for any length of time.

Probably the key characteristic of community traitor is a complete inability to communicate. Nothing ever, ever gets in. And they're good at faking it—pretending to respond, like a super-advanced Eliza program—but there's never any real indication that anything ever permeates to their being. (The essence of receiving communication is to be changed by it, after all.)

This isn't true just for online communities of course.

Which brings me to the ones that I've seen thrive: They're all united around a real world purpose. Technical matters, religion, a genuine craft, something that both requires an effort to be a part of and has a put-up-or-shut-up aspect.

In the purely virtual, we hang to imagined threads. No exactly imagined, but really co-created. The community exists because we say it does. We have shared values in some fashion. But our understanding of those values is imperfect, and all it takes to shred a virtual community is someone to come in and push the boundaries of that understanding, to point out the weaknesses, and to drive people to those corners.

It's a shame but I've seen it happen so many times over the years I'm practically inured to it. I think if I were going to start an online community now, I'd do it around an activity. Like, I don't know, bowling

Monday, August 6, 2012

Sunday, May 6, 2012

What the fuck do you know?

Did you ever listen to someone spout off about something they know nothing about. It happens all the time. A reporter talks about what it is like to be a cop facing a life and death situation. A Mike Wallace or a Walter Cronkite talks about what it is to be a soldier. A guy like President Obama talks about what it is like to be a patriotic American. It is just a joke.

It is that way about fashion. I mean I was forced to learn a lot about fashion because of the store. Not the avaunt Gard runway bullshit but the down in the trenches selling ready to wear. Where the fucking rubber meets the road. I deal with weight issues every fucking day. I really hate when fucking idiots talk about something they nothing about. But I will not dive in to comment.

It's better to let Carrot Top perform. It's not really comedy. It is a tragedy really. But some people like to watch it. You just can't tell people anything.

Sunday, February 12, 2012