Sunday, December 16, 2012

Did I mention there is a lot of chum in the water?




They want to make nice over at TOP. So they are putting out a lot of chum. I have to laugh. I might comment here and there in an alter ego but Trooper York will never return.

86 comments:

The Dude said...

So you are Captain Gyro or whomever. Damn. That character seems way too literate...

The Dude said...

Baron Zemo, who just wrote "just sayn'"

My previous comments on this subject are rendered inoperative. Also, I denounce myself for being slower on the uptake than Oop. I am truly mortified and ashamed.

windbag said...

FWIW, bad idea, unless the goal is to add to the paranoia and conspiracy theories.

The Dude said...

I am here to help, oh yeah!

MamaM said...

"Whatever the origin, chumming is an ideal way to turn an otherwise mediocre fishing experience into fast and furious action...to attract gamefish to the angler's bait."

At least the promotion involved a bump from distinctive trooper to titled gamefish.

The Dude said...

Or perhaps, a supervillain!

Titus said...

titled gamefish.

WHAT IS THAT? I AM TITTILLACTED.

chickelit said...

Titular Baron

Titus said...

TROOP, YOU JUST ADMITTED THAT YOU ARE POSTING OVER THERE UNDER AN ALIAS.

THIS IS HUGE! NOT AS HUGE AS MY 8 1/2 INCH CUT HOG THAT HAS NO BEND THOUGH-IT'S PERFECTLY STRAIGHT, NO CURVE TO THE LEFT OR RIGHT.

chickelit said...

This is a private blog, Titus. Plus I don't thing anyone over there will figure it out.

MamaM said...

Oh, chickelit, surely you know Titus to be the sole of discretion when it comes to chum!

chickelit said...

Titus flounders over there lately. Did you read Palladian's sketch of him?

Chip S. said...

Some reelly good lines here, but after 3 days this thread will still stink.

MamaM said...

Did you read Palladian's sketch of him?

I did. Palladian's excellent artistry in portraiture came through. Here's the fish version

Evi L. Bloggerlady said...

Are you saying you just can't quit her?

AllenS said...

Why not use your real name. Like Jim this, or Jim that? Or, are your plans to just go over and ruin the conversation? It's up to you, but there already are enough people over there intent on ruining the conversation. If you have a beef with either Meade or Althouse tell them about it, but act like you're willing to do it without hiding behind a mask.

The Dude said...

Troop is a bigger sellout than RGIII, well, Rob Carter's idea of what RGIII is, anyway.

Your television show is over, you have kissed and made up with Meade and Slimehouse, so just why is this a private blog now?

Open this sumbitch up and allow those scumbags to return.

Better yet, start a Baron Zemo blog, if you haven't already.

What could possibly go wrong, other than the inevitable failure of the Gints, that is.

Chip S. said...

Open this sumbitch up and allow those scumbags to return.

urgmmm...blurffff!!!

Didn't take 3 days.

The Dude said...

You can change your name, but like Titus, the shtick remains the same.

Michael Haz said...

Who's this Jim guy you speak of? I thought TY was really Dom Delouise.

Titus said...

Do you ever miss one single comment on that site Chick? It's like you have an Excel spreadsheet with every single comment from the date etc. and you can pull it up immediately.

You should be the head historian/libraian over there and get a little payment.

Titus said...

I think it is important, after a pause for mourning, that we get back and focus on tits.


Everyone says get back to you "normal" routine.

Also this is more of a regional eastern thing so thanks for all your well wishes but go back to your red states, thanks.

thanks.

MamaM said...

I live in a blue state, Titus, as do several of the other chums in this bucket, if their word is to be believed.

A little payment to an archivist might be something to consider if you want to keep your story as straight as your hog.

Trooper York said...

This is a private blog and will remain a private blog. I will not open it again.

The Trooper York brand will remain what it is. I will not be going anywhere under that name. He was tossed from TOP and will not return.

I have an ongoing discussion with blake about on-line identity. I feel that you can post under various names and each one of these "characters" is it's own distinct person. Unless of course you post under your real name as AllenS suggests. All of us have many parts to our personality and need to express these parts in various ways. The part of us that is on the internet is not all of us. So you can take a point of view or an attitude or even a full blown character and post in that vain. And that is valid for that character.

This is not being a sock-puppet. A sock-puppet is a personality whose only purpose is to echo and validate the opinions of the "main character." But using a character who is in and of itself a "separate" person is different in my book.

For example: Sir Archy, the blogging cockroach and Inspector Fredrich might all be the same person but they have different points of view and different things to say. All of the valid and worth listening to. One does not control the other even is it is all the same person. I hold to this view.

Trooper York said...

To address AllenS's point, my goal is not to ruin the conversation. I just occasionally have things to say and I want to say them. So I will. When it suits me. And be silent when it suits me.

I enjoy many of the commentators over there and like interacting with them. Most of them did not ask for an invitation to comment here and I respect that. That place is more political than here so I comment in a more political persona. Not in the light and fun persona that is Trooper York.

He is dead to TOP and will remain so forever. Just sayn'

Chip S. said...

You can change your name, but like Titus, the shtick remains the same.

You don't like shtick?

I consider this persona an homage to fish and good lines and multiple personas. IOW, entirely thread-specific.

Not exactly a secret identity, in case you didn't notice.

ricpic said...

I'm having very up and down days recently. Which is probably mainly about it being December. Okay, enough whining.

"...my goal is not to ruin the conversation. I just occasionally have things to say and I want to say them. So I will. When it suits me. And be silent when it suits me."

I know this is gonna sound affected as hell, but my first reaction was that that is very Whitmanesque, especially the part I have italicized. It's very take it or leave it this is what I am...live with what I am...or walk away, it's all the same to me, cause I'm going to go on being me and expressing me and that's that. Pure Whitman. Who was a Brooklyn boy, but that's neither here nor there, the point is he expressed America and as long as many Americans have that same thing inside them the country will survive the present thug and his minions and survive free.

Then on the other hand we have Sixty taking on the Ahab avatar from the work of that sick freak Melville whose white whale symbolism I've never been able to "get" and never will no matter how many professors wax lyrical about that wierd customs inspector and his navel gazing work. Of course we all know Sixty goes off course from time to time from inhaling too much sawdust. Is Sixty fundamentally sound? Time alone will tell....

ricpic said...

Oh, I forgot to mention Titus' 8 1/2 inch claim ha ha ha ha ha ha ha.

MamaM said...

Of course we all know Sixty goes off course from time to time from inhaling too much sawdust. Is Sixty fundamentally sound?

Will Sixty Pound Test prove to be as reliable as Sixty Grit?

In keeping with the fish and chums theme, there's always TROLLING , which seems to qualify as CAPITAL PERFORMANCE ART and win the online approval if not acceptance of those professing a deep concern over the authenticity of on-line identity. Murky waters INDEED!

The definition I go with for "sock puppet" centers around use of an online identity for purposes of deception.

Back to Motive.

Trooper York said...

It is not deception if everyone knows who it is. I agree with your definition MamaM.

Trooper York said...

Most people with a strong personality can not hide it if they post under another name. If you have enough of a history at a particular blog they will suss you out right away.

chickelit said...

I could never do that because I have too many typographical tells and grammar tics. But otherwise, yeah, it might be fun to try to be someone else.

The Dude said...

You are correct. I have not always been Sixty Grit. I used to be more coarse. Fifty Grit or so. Maybe 36 Grit. And years ago, 24 grit.

I read a lot of Whitman 2 years ago - enjoyed his work immensely. It really spoke to me.

I read Moby Dick back in the late '90s, didn't like it even a little bit. Melville is tedious. On the other hand, I have been told there was symbolism in there, and if that is true, I sure as shit missed it - some ol' one legged dude pimpin' with a limp all around the world to seek revenge on a cetacean. Melville repeatedly refers to the whale as a fish. Dude, it's got lungs. Gives birth to live young, nurses them. Well, the female whales do, and based on the name, I assume Moby was a Dick whale.

But back to the main point - my deep sense of embarrassment at having never seen that Zima was Troop. Damn, boy, you got me. I am chagrined at my own lack of discernment.

Oh well, I'll get over it. Lord knows I have done more embarrassing things in this life.

But I guess, if I wanted to, I could create a new identity and comment over there, but it really is a snake pit and I feel better not interacting with the likes of the commenters there.

Gives me a haddock.

chickelit said...

A toast: To 4 More Years On TY!!

chickelit said...

@titus: I got that one from my spreadsheet...

Dust Bunny Queen said...

Most people with a strong personality can not hide it if they post under another name. If you have enough of a history at a particular blog they will suss you out right away.

I have a hard time trying to disguise my writing style. Tried it a few times and it was way more work than worth it.

So. Heck. I'm just me. All the time.

Michael Haz said...

I guess it was a misunderstanding.

When the store clerk said "strip down, facing me" I really didn't know she was telling me how to use the credit card reader.

The Sherriff's deputy had no sense of humor. I think they are trained to never smile.

And the woman standing behind me must have mistaken me for her husband because she kept saying "Harry, Harry."

The Dude said...

Haz wins the thread again!

MamaM said...

When the store clerk said "strip down, facing me"

Did she go so far as to say anything about your PIN???

Michael Haz said...

No, but she asked me if I'd like to debit, whatever the kinky heck that is.

The Dude said...

Just run it through the slot and make a deposit.

Aw crap, now I have sunk to depths that should not be plumbed.

Speaking of plumbing, going to call the guy and find out what the damage will be for a water heater R&R. I may cut down trees, but water heaters - those are real work!

chickelit said...

Sixty Grit said...
Haz wins the thread again!

There was a contest?

MamaM said...

A repeat contest?

Good thing the clerk stopped short of saying "Enter".

The Dude said...

There was. You came in second.

MamaM said...

There was. You came in second.

Are you talking to me??? chickelit?? Or yourself?

Enter, in my book is better than running it through the slot any day of the week.

The Dude said...

Sorry, CL. Sloppy of me.

rcocean said...

Dogs,Gays, and Guns. That puts bums on the seats.

rcocean said...

Then it don't matter. I'll be all around in the dark - I'll be everywhere. Wherever you can look - wherever there's a fight, so hungry people can eat, I'll be there. Wherever there's a cop beatin' up a guy, I'll be there. I'll be in the way guys yell when they're mad. I'll be in the way kids laugh when they're hungry and they know supper's ready, and when the people are eatin' the stuff they raise and livin' in the houses they build - I'll be there, too.

Titus said...

MAMAM I DON'T KNOW WHERE ANY OF YOUR PEEPS LIVE, EXCEPT TROOP BECAUSE IT IS FAB.

HAZ LIVES IN WISCONSIN SOMEWHERE.

BUT YOU, I THINK MAYBE MICHIGAN OR OHIO OR SOME RUST BELT STATE. I AM THINKING A STATE THAT'S FORMER GLORY HAS FADED GREATLY-LIKE THE ACTRESS IN SUNSET BOULEVARD.

I LIVE IN A DEEP BLUE CREATIVE ECONOMY STATE.

WE ARE FAB AND RICH AND BITCHY.

I DON'T THINK THIS STORY WOULD OF GAINED AS MUCH NATIONAL PRESS IF IT WAS IN MAYBERRY SOUTH CAROLINA. THIS IS THE PRESS'S PEEPS, QUINTESSENTIAL NEW ENGLAND TOWN, 75 MILES FROM NYC-GOOD HOTEL ACCOMIES, FAIRLY WEALTHY-THEY FEEL THESE PEEPS PAIN MORE BECAUSE THEY ARE THEM.

I AM TIRED OF HEARING THAT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT "WOULD NEVER HAPPEN HERE". ALSO, ABOUT IT BEING SUCH A SMALL COMMUNITY. 1000 PEEPS IS SMALL TOWN, 23,000 IS NOT.

TITS.

MamaM said...

I don't understand it, Tom.

Me, neither, Ma, but - just somethin' I been thinkin' about.

Titus said...

I AM VERY DISCRETE MAMA-NOT ABOUT MYSELF.

I WOULD NEVER SHARE THIS ON THE QUEEN'S BLOG.

I DID WANT TO DO THE MUZZIE IMMAN WHO GAVE A READING AT THE INTERFAITH CEREMONY LAST NIGHT-IN CASE YOU WANTED TO KNOW. WHEN HIS LITTLE HANDS WERE RAISED UP BY HIS WAIST PRAYING I TOTALLY SPRANG ONE, AND YES IT IS 8 1/2 NO CURVES. AND BECAUSE MY BUSH IS PRUNED IT LOOKS ESPECIALLY LARGE.

CAN I ASK HOW MANY OF YOU MANSCAPE OR FOR THE FEMALES DO A LITTLE MOWING? I BET TROOP, BECAUSE HE IS EXPOSED TO NYC FASHION DOES SOME TRIMMING.

THANKS.

I GO HOME IN 3 DAYS!

YEA!

AND THEY ARE SUPPOSED TO GET 12 INCHES.....OF SNOW!

Titus said...

DEEPAK CHOPRA IS NEWTOWN, CT, GOOD LORD.

The Dude said...

I am no big fan of Steinbeck, even though I met his son once, name drop name drop, but he could string together some pretty words pretty darned well. If he wasn't such a freakin' commie I might read more of his stuff.

I traveled the west with a dog once, and was put in mind of Travels With Charlie. Turns out Steinbeck made that whole thing up. Fiction writers - you just can't trust 'em.

MamaM said...

MAMAM I DON'T KNOW WHERE ANY OF YOUR PEEPS LIVE, EXCEPT TROOP BECAUSE IT IS FAB.

These PEEPS are YOUR PEEPS, Titus!! Lo, these many years you've been talking and gassing at them, one would think someone as worldly and fined tuned as you would have at least heard them cheeping about their fab and less than fab locations.

Titus said...

DIANE FEINSTEIN SEEMS SO REASONABLE ON TV.

SHE IS SO SAN FRANCISCO JEW-LOVE HER.

Titus said...

MAMAM YOU ARE MY PEEP?

WOW!

HUGS.

MamaM said...

Turns out Steinbeck made that whole thing up...Fiction writers - you just can't trust 'em.

This day is getting worse by the minute. First I find out ol' Trooper dressed his old book in a new cover and returned to the place he swore he'd permanently left. Then I get incontrovertible proof from Long-Term-Titus-with-the-Tin- Ears-and-Chizzed-Qwerty, that he doesn't listen for shit. Next up, I find out Charlie was a figment of imagination. Something devastating about Santa's probably next. Maybe he misunderstood the cashier and made things worse by shouting "Come, Vixen!" in his haste to summon up the reindeer and get the heck out of Dodge.

rcocean said...

"I find out Charlie was a figment of imagination."

Travels with Charlie "Charlie" was made up?!

Well, there are Liars, Damn Liars, and Novelists.

Michael Haz said...

Dogs, Gays, and Guns. That puts bums on the seats.

No kidding. And what a collection of maroons on the "Community" thread. Makes me very glad that this here is a private club and that the proprietor can close the door to anyone he chooses.

john said...

TY - how about a hint for the minority of your fans who are somewhat challenged by this? (Perhaps a very small minority, but still.) Not the name, but perhaps which post(s) you chummed in on.

Trooper York said...

Michael I did not break my word.

Trooper York has permanently left TOP and will never post there again.

An entirely different much angrier and political guy drops a comment over there now and again. But happy go lucky fun Trooper York will never return.

Trooper York said...

John I have been dropping a few comments at TOP under a name I have been using since 2008.

It is my "angry contemptuous" guy persona and it lets me communicate to those who choose not to sign up here.

What this "character" does not do is lead people back here because this is a closed shop and will remain so forever. So those comments are stand-alone and are not part of what we do here.

Trooper York said...

I am sure you can figure it out if you pay attention. You are a pretty bright guy for a rock farmer.

The Dude said...

HGL TY. Yeah, that's the ticket. BZ, not so HGL. Got it.

So, all I need to do is create another account and go back to TOP, only angrier and more political. Yeah, that's not going to happen. If my online character became angrier my head my explode. Keeping my BP low is good.

Those commenters over there really are tedious, but they are annoying.

How the hell did that dimbulb fatwad commie of a nurse Allie ever figure out that you were BZ? I am nonplussed, to say the least. Does absolute moral authority give one some special powers of insight or something? Exploding minds want to know...

MamaM said...

An entirely different much angrier and political guy drops a comment over there now and again. But happy go lucky fun Trooper York will never return.

Good luck keeping the old and new separate and distinct. If Titus who's been practicing since Hector was a pup, can't keep his stories and personas straight, holding the blarney down won't come easy. Just sayin'.

I think you're fooling yourself and few others with this. But I said I'd support your journey when I came over to the private blog, and I continue to believe you are a writer with a story to tell, wherever and however you express yourself. Write on!

Dust Bunny Queen said...
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Dust Bunny Queen said...

I made this alter ego spot, but I find very hard to chatter hep patter all the time.

So ....I might do something else retro-ish about the culture of the 40's, 50's and 60' for fun.

Titus said...

I had a horrible dream last night that I was covered in mean nipples.

The nipples were angry and had teeth and some had Hitler mustaches and they were covering my body.

They covered my perfect pecs and my sculpted bis and tris.

They were talking to each other too.

I couldn't make out what they were saying but they seemed to want to get vengeance on my. I could not walk or sit or lay down because they were all over my cute feets, and beautiful back and tight ass.

And they started getting louder. They were mean scheming nipples and they were out to destroy me.

As they became louder they started breathing and oozing nasty fluids.

I screamed stoo up in bed and there right by my side was the huge head of a rare clumber and UK Indian looking at me and I screamed again.

I am fine now though, thanks so much for asking.

Michael Haz said...

Michael I did not break my word.

Trooper, I apologize for anything I posted that even hinted at you breaking your word. I did not mean anything even remotely like that at all.

Michael Haz said...

Except maybe when you said that the Giants would win last weekend, but that's water under the bridge. The 0-34 bridge.

Michael Haz said...
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Trooper York said...

Hey I might be mistaken but I am never wrong.

chickelit said...

Fog blather is a mere mortal among prognostics.

chickelit said...

What happened to Spinelli?

chickelit said...

As they became louder they started breathing and oozing nasty fluids.

That reminds me of a scene from the film version of "Naked Lunch."

chickelit said...

@Titus: your latest dream sounds like cross between "The Sorceror's Apprentice" and Ed Gein's nipple belt.

MamaM said...

@Titus: your latest dream sounds like cross between "The Sorceror's Apprentice" and Ed Gein's nipple belt.

Or an overdose of Angry Birds between porn PEEPS.

Titus said...

THEY WERE ANGRY NIPPLES!

MamaM said...

Fog blather is a mere mortal among prognostics.

I'm in the mood to regard the Fog blather as a ProctologicalGnostic. It will pass.

chickelit said...

Troop is Titus?

Evi L. Bloggerlady said...

I am surprised you would go back. I am banned there, but I take that as a complement.

MamaM said...

I am surprised you would go back. I am banned there, but I take that as a complement.

With a change of name and less realistic looking avatar, a relaxed cow might just be able to fool the farmer and sneak in the back door as Bull Zeye

For Sixty Grit, a return as DubyaD40 would keep the BP low by offering opportunity to be unctuous and penetrating, while silencing squeaks, displacing moisture, loosening stuck parts...and cleaning up virtually everything in need of a gleam

The Dude said...

Good one, MamaM, but that place annoys me too much to do more than occasionally visit. Truly a snakepit.

The less I comment the better.

windbag said...

I am surprised you would go back. I am banned there, but I take that as a complement.

High praise, indeed.

I avoid places where I'm not welcome and avoid places where I'm out of place. TOP proved to be a poor fit long ago. It fits others--it's a preference thing.

MamaM said...

Truly a snakepit...a poor fit...a preference thing

The above reasons were also part of my decision to quit commenting there, even though I continue to appreciate some of the posts and enjoy several of the commentors who appear to me to be knowledgeable, sincere or humorous in presentation, reasonably balanced and consistent in their approach.

Deception is a major relational transgression that often leads to feelings of betrayal and distrust between relational partners. Deception violates relational rules and is considered to be a negative violation of expectations. Most people expect friends, relational partners, and even strangers to be truthful most of the time. If people expected most conversations to be untruthful, talking and communicating with others would require distraction and misdirection to acquire reliable information.

john said...

Trooper York said...
I am sure you can figure it out if you pay attention. You are a pretty bright guy for a rock farmer.


Thanks TY. Most would have said I'm pretty bright for a box of rocks. So I take this as high compliment, indeed.