Trooper York: Sometimes you can keep saying it over and over....

Saturday, June 25, 2011

Sometimes you can keep saying it over and over....

But some people can't get the point.

Or points. So to speak.

34 comments:

Penny said...: "Sometimes you can keep saying it over and over...."

Hopefully with enthusiasm!

I find that helps. :); June 26, 2011 at 12:54 AM
Penny said...: So, Troop, your point was?

Ha ha Now I'm teasing you. :P; June 26, 2011 at 12:58 AM
Penny said...: And I see you are teasing me back!; June 26, 2011 at 4:06 AM
Penny said...: So seriously. This is what I tell my friends. When I start repeating myself...saying something OVER and OVER again? Their best shot is to point directly at me and laugh hysterically while saying something like, "SEE! ha ha ha ha You're doing that "thang" you always do! Whereupon I start laughing too while saying..."I was only trying to make you understand my finer point(s)".; June 26, 2011 at 4:07 AM
Shouting Thomas said...: Those tits could poke your eyes out!

You'd have to be very careful while suckling.

But, I'm willing to give it a try.

What's her name?; June 26, 2011 at 8:58 AM
Titus said...: I love those tits.; June 26, 2011 at 12:59 PM
edutcher said...: No one told her it's impolite to point.; June 26, 2011 at 3:56 PM
MamaM said...: No one told her it's impolite to point.

The opposite of a hunch.; June 26, 2011 at 4:37 PM
chickelit said...: Pointillism was a mocking term invented by French art critics to deride pixelation.

I dislike people who deride pixies and breasts.; June 26, 2011 at 9:23 PM
Titus said...: All women should be required to have tits like that.

It would be a much better world.

Pointy tits.; June 26, 2011 at 10:09 PM
ricpic said...: No one that old has north pointing tits.

I think chicken is a little pixilated with that comment about pointillism. Pointillism was all the rage for a while and then people (artists and critics) lost interest. The way they always do about everything but tits.

I drove all the way out to Montana and all the way back and didn't think of anyone here once. Did anyone here think of me? Not likely. Which is the way it should be. Everyone has his problems and no one else cares and that's the way it is. And a good thing, too.; June 26, 2011 at 11:16 PM
MamaM said...: Another Sunday Afternoon on the Island accessed by Grande Jet, has come to a close while the chickenlittle devotes himself to optical unification and picture development.

As for the Titus and other old chap titiously claiming devotion to two points while relentlessly sawing away with their same single pointed blades over and over again, it's all about performance art.

For the traveling ricpic, moving here and there without a care, a Mirage in the Midst comes to mind.; June 27, 2011 at 12:48 AM
TTBurnett said...: I say good for ricpic. He has the right attitude about illusions.; June 27, 2011 at 1:06 AM
windbag said...: There must be some deeply repressed childhood memory at work or something, but that pic just gives me the creeps.; June 27, 2011 at 2:20 AM
windbag said...: Everyone has his problems and no one else cares and that's the way it is.

Even my friends don't like me.; June 27, 2011 at 2:21 AM
Chuck said...: Those arent "I"'s!; June 27, 2011 at 11:20 AM
Penny said...: Gentlemen, don't be so sure that MamaM herself isn't also thinking about breasts. She unconsciously dropped two extra "D"s into her last comment.

See if you can find MamaM's DD's.; June 27, 2011 at 12:51 PM
MamaM said...: Hidden in the mist.; June 27, 2011 at 1:47 PM
Penny said...: And one more, MamaM.; June 29, 2011 at 11:03 AM
MamaM said...: Devotion to development is prominent around these parts, Ms Penny, with a pair of sharp eyes noted to be one of your finer points.; June 29, 2011 at 12:00 PM
TTBurnett said...: Trooper really ought to get back here, as the next place to go with this thread is Twin Peaks.

And we all know how weird that can get.; June 29, 2011 at 12:31 PM
ricpic said...: Troop's absence must mean Lee Lee's Valise is going national. At least that's my surmise. There'll be two golden L's at every interstate exit.; June 29, 2011 at 2:22 PM
MamaM said...: What's in your valise?

------------------

When seeking
fashions
unparalled
look inside
The Double LL
Lee Lee's Valise

In style
plus
size
no
compromise!
Lee Lee's Valise

Cashing
Twin Peaks
In Double DD's
Is Lee Lee's
Point of specialty
Lee Lee's Valise; June 29, 2011 at 5:25 PM
TTBurnett said...: Here's a great piece on a legal dispute between two breast-themed restaurants—one in fact called "Twin Peaks," and the other "Grand Tetons."

Siouxsielaw—a great little Goth-themed blawg—has the following about scantily-clad female employees and the law:

The owners of Dallas-based Twin Peaks Restaurant have sued an Arkansas-based competitor named Northern Exposure Restaurant (which is incorporated under the name Grand Tetons) for copying its concept. Both restaurants rely on sexy waitresses to sell food and drinks to a mostly-male clientele. And both restaurants have a similar lodge-like style.

Twin Peaks alleges claims of infringement of trademark and trade dress.

For its claims of trade dress infringement, Twin Peaks essentially complains that Northern Exposure stole its look and feel.

To prevail on a claim of trade dress infringement, Twin Peaks must prove the trade dress at issue is inherently distinctive or has secondary meaning, and is primarily nonfunctional. Twin Peaks must also convince the trier of fact that the Northern Exposure’s trade dress is confusingly similar.

But a lodge-like style restaurant may be too generic to be protected by trade dress. More important the predominant feature of the Twin Peaks’ trade dress is its Twin Peaks’ waitress uniform. Scantily clad waitresses serving up food and sex appeal, however, are not part of a restaurant’s trade dress. This issue was decided the in Hooters v. Winghouse and affirmed by the Eleventh Circuit:

. . . Hooters has admitted that the Hooters Girl’s predominant function is to provide vicarious sexual recreation, to titillate, entice, and arouse male customers’ fantasies. She is the very essence of Hooters’ business. This essential functionality disqualifies the Hooters Girl from trade dress protection.

If the Hooters’ uniform did not deserve trademark protection because it was functional, surely the Twin Peaks uniform doesn’t.

Now, aren't you glad THAT's been cleared up?

Do check out Siouxsie's comments, tho. We agree on who we might want to go to dinner with at a Twin Peaks.; June 29, 2011 at 6:18 PM
TTBurnett said...: Now, if Trooper comes on and says, "The only thing worse than a lawyer is a scantily-clad girl with big tits," then we'll know we've REALLY lost him.; June 29, 2011 at 6:24 PM
chickelit said...: @Tim: The guy whose house we're renting seems to have a tremendous collection of classical music CDs. I'm sure he wouldn't mind if I copied just a few, but I wouldn't know where to start. Please post your list of "essentials" so that I can get a couple good ones. I've already snagged some jazz.; June 29, 2011 at 11:45 PM
Titus said...: I want those hard point tits in my mouth now.

All women, shoud have those hard pointy tits, and if they don't, they are trash.; June 30, 2011 at 12:43 AM
TTBurnett said...: Chickelit: I'm afraid Blogger's broken again, and I really can't answer you.

I've tried repeatedly to post a longish reply to your question, but I've had to work through a laundry list of errors and rejections, and now I give up.

It looks like Blogger gets strange with links to anything musical. Of course I can't put up any list of music or even comments about music without links. I think all of my links were good and to reputable sites, but who knows what Blogger is up to any more.

Sorry. I'll try to put up my reply somewhere else, but I can't think where just now. I don't have a blog, and I hate Facebook, so maybe I'll work it into something more respectable and put it up in the next few days on the Ambiance blog, where I'm a group member.

Grumble.; June 30, 2011 at 4:34 AM
MamaM said...: Of course I can't put up any list of music or even comments about music without links...I really can't answer you.

Zounds, Tim, it's starting to sound like those dreamy aliens might have poked something up the snoot into the frontal lobe too.

Relax and start by composing and posting a short list of 5 -10 "essentials" without links. Let the Seeker browse through whatever collection they have at hand and find the pieces themselves, in CD form or online.

It's not rocket science and your recommendations do not need to be linked or presented in some long, involved form to be considered respectable. Respect was already established in the request.

Lighten up and let your thoughts fly to far away places like spaceships full of aliens.; June 30, 2011 at 12:38 PM
TTBurnett said...: Well, I did want to put up my original post. I think I'll try it again, edited, shorn of offending links, and divided in two parts:

Not advocating copyright infringement in any way, and not wanting to take up too much breast-blogging real estate with a tedious roll of my own favorites, I'd say this list from NPR's Performance Today is a fine place to start. If you find any of those actual recordings, definitely include them, as they are all very good.

I hate the term, "Classical Music." It was invented in 1802 by Johann Nikolaus Forkel in connection with his biography of J.S. Bach. He said Bach "wrote the first Classical music," meaning Bach's music was the first that endure, something like Classical Greek and Latin literature. That wasn't completely true, as even in Forkel's day, the Opus 6 concerti grossi of Archangelo Corelli had been continuous use since before their official publication in 1714. In Mozart's time, for example, Corelli's concerti were regarded as gems, out-of-date as they may have been, well worth including on a concert program if something high-minded and majestic was wanted.

Before the mid-19th century, there were no categories in music of the sort we're used to today. There was just "music." It may have been "elaborate" music, or music "fit for connoisseurs," but before the rise of mass-market popular music, there was no vast chasm of the sort we take for granted today. In the 18th century and before, composers and players were often involved with light entertainments for, say, dinner music or dances, as well as more serious, "studious" works.

Most educated people had at least a passing acquaintance with singing and the keyboard. That was because there were no recordings. If you wanted music, you had to do it yourself or spend the time and money to go out to hear it.

I could go on, but you get the idea. Because people today are spoon-fed a background sound track, they naturally have no idea of what goes into it or how they might judge it, other than by their own, often highly subjective reactions. Not to denigrate subjective reactions, but to get the most out of art in general—not just music—it's a good idea to educate yourself. A little exposure and knowledge can repay the trouble of acquiring them by opening new mental and spiritual landscapes filled with unexpected beauties.; June 30, 2011 at 2:45 PM
TTBurnett said...: Now, Part the Second of Tim's Compleat Justification of Classical Musick:

Back to our list. One caveat I always push when dealing with recordings of music written before the time of Mozart, say, is that they need to be on period instruments. As Mr. Natural once said to Flakey Foont, "Use the right tool for the job." "Modern" instruments were developed in the 19th century for 19th century music, and it is often very hard to do justice to its Baroque predecessor using them. This mostly goes for wind instruments and keyboards, but even string players used differently-made bows and strings before the 19th century. Then there's the question of pitch, which had changed quite a bit. That isn't to say there aren't a lot of rotten period instrument performances, but the use of old instruments usually means the performers have gone to the trouble to try to understand the style of the time and how the music might have been intended to sound by the composer—a robust concept I firmly endorse.

Three more things I'd add to NPR's list, and then I'm done:

1. Listen to Brahms' Third Symphony. It is the most lyrical and approachable of almost all Brahms works. It's impossible to listen to the 3rd movement without a tear in your eye and yet some gladness in your soul. Like the Presidency, Brahms is not for anyone under the age of 35. Some people say the Third is too light. I say, go to hell.

2. Listen to Alban Berg's Violin Concerto. Berg is, again, the most lyrical and approachable of the Viennese 12-tone composers of the 1900's. Schoenberg is the godfather of this music, but I think he needs a bit more preparation on the part of the average listener. Berg, on the other hand, can be "gotten" fairly easily. His Violin Concerto was written on the leukumia death of 18-year-old Manon Gropius, daughter of Walter Gropius and Alma Mahler. It was composed according to the precepts of 12-tone or "serial" composition, which lends it a degree of abstraction in tension with its tragic inspiration and emotional content. This tension is pervasively conveyed by a feeling of warmth and tonality lurking behind the abstraction. The completely logical emergence of Bach's setting of the chorale, "Est ist genug" ("It is enough, O Lord") from the 12-tone texture among the woodwinds in the last movement is one of the most heart-rending and intellectually astonishing things in all music. This may be too "advanced" a piece for the beginner, as it requires a fairly deep background to truly appreciate what's going on. But I think it's accessible enough, and, to my mind, the greatest violin concerto ever written.

3. Listen to more Mahler. You cannot ever hear enough of Mahler, who was the musical equivalent of one of the great 19th century novelists. Das Lied von der Erde is short by Mahler standards, and despite, or perhaps because of being a late work, a good place to start. You may eventually find yourself listening to Mahler for hours on end and not notice the time pass. It's like reading Tolstoy or Dickens. There's very little other music with the depth of structure and technical brilliance to pull this off.

I'm done.; June 30, 2011 at 2:48 PM
MamaM said...: Sadly he waits
For life to cease
His purse
Full of honey
An empty valise.

Apart from the wife
and the hog
he craves
The hub enjoys
A Burma shave; June 30, 2011 at 5:06 PM
ricpic said...: Great post, Tim. The closest words have come to conveying the effect of sublime music on a listener is Edna St. Vincent Millay's On Hearing A Symphony Of Beethoven. It applies to Brahms as well as far as I'm concerned. Since anything less than Miss Millay's poem does an injustice to the experience I'll leave it in her capable hands, or pen. Google the poem and I think you'll agree.; June 30, 2011 at 6:50 PM
TTBurnett said...: Thanks, ricpic. There are obviously a few omissions, grammatical mistakes and stylistic problems that need correcting. But I think I'll work this up a bit more and put it up on Ambiance. That blog needs more posts!

Here's Edna St. Vincent Millay's poem you suggested:

Sweet sounds, oh, beautiful music, do not cease!
Reject me not into the world again.
With you alone is excellence and peace,
Mankind made plausible, his purpose plain.
Enchanted in your air benign and shrewd,
With limbs a-sprawl and empty faces pale,
The spiteful and the stingy and the rude
Sleep like the scullions in the fairy-tale.
This moment is the best the world can give:
The tranquil blossom on the tortured stem.
Reject me not, sweet sounds; oh, let me live,
Till Doom espy my towers and scatter them,
A city spell-bound under the aging sun.
Music my rampart, and my only one.; June 30, 2011 at 9:32 PM

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Sometimes you can keep saying it over and over....

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