Wednesday, September 30, 2009

Via con dios gringo!




Penny said:


My second thought is about NYC folks being used to enclaves, and how that somehow feels different when you spend time in a place where the "enclave" appears much less diverse, and you might even be the minority John Doe.

Heck I know you go to Miami, so you are used to seeing Hispanics in large numbers. But somehow this is different for you.

Interesting

What is different is that the Mexican culture is dominant for some much of the area. In New York it is contained within a five block radius or so. So the Chinese in Sunset Park, the Dominicans in Washington Heights, the Hondurans in Corona, the Irish in Woodside are sort of contained. The Mexican culture here seems a lot like the orthodox Jewish culture in some place like Borough Park, totally dominant and ubiquitous.

I wasn't upset in the least, I just thought it interesting how less diverse it is than New York.

But you can get a lot of roses cheap.

10 comments:

TMink said...

Diversity is a funny thing. Too often it is really just a political code word for Democrat.

Real diversity, diversity of thought and practice and food and culture, is a great thing. It blesses America. Soon, China will send missionaries to us here because they are the most Christian nation on earth if you count the number of believers.

Now that will be some diversity! And how will the diversity pretenders react? About the same way the do to the only African American on the current Supreme Court. Cause they are talking about codeword diversity.
Trey

TMink said...

Oops, will I get banned for getting a tad political?

Trey

Peter V. Bella said...

TMink,
Just as long as the missionaries are chefs it will be OK.

Penny said...

"Diversity is a funny thing."

I guess that was my point, Trey.

I know damn well that Troop isn't "anti" any ethnic group because he is surrounded by it daily and really relishes all the differences he sees in the big apple. That's why they call it the melting pot.

But when you head out to a new place and the pot is mostly Mexican, and you aren't one? Well, you notice that. Then you think about it, and then you decide exactly how it's working out for you. That's pretty much how black minorities have lived their lives outside the big cities, and frankly, I am not so sure they think that is working out so well for them, all in all.

Which has me wondering...MORE enclaves? MORE immigration?

Of course I'm assuming immigration from all over the world here, and not just from Mexico. Also an assumption that people would be here legally, and hopefully, would go on to become American citizens.

Anyway, I guess I just floated off into immigration policy, which is entirely too serious.

Heck, I should be following the links to MORE breasts! lol

You know it wouldn't kill you to throw me a fine penis, now and again, Troop. ;)

Just sayin'....

Trooper York said...

Wait a minute Penny. Some of my commenters are among the biggest dicks on the internet.

blake said...

We're very diverse. You just can't count hispanics as part of the diversity. They're like the white people elsewhere.

If you look at the spreads, you'll see that you have more blacks, but way fewer "other races". But if you tally the usual suspects (hispanics, non-hispanic whites and blacks), those account for 93%-ish of NYC's population and only 85%-ish of LA's.

So, I think we probably have the diversity edge over NYC, but it's easy to look at the hispanic stuff and go, "Crap, it's like Mexico City, only with more Mexicans!"

Races in Los Angeles:
Hispanic (46.5%)
White Non-Hispanic (29.7%)
Other race (25.7%)
Black (11.2%)
Two or more races (5.2%)
Filipino (2.7%)
Korean (2.5%)
Chinese (1.7%)
American Indian (1.4%)
Japanese (1.0%)
Other Asian (0.9%)
Asian Indian (0.7%)
Vietnamese (0.5%)


Races in New York:
White Non-Hispanic (35.0%)
Hispanic (27.0%)
Black (26.6%)
Other race (13.4%)
Two or more races (4.9%)
Chinese (4.5%)
Asian Indian (2.1%)
American Indian (1.1%)
Korean (1.1%)
Other Asian (1.0%)
Filipino (0.7%)

TMink said...

Penny, I was agreeing with and bouncing along with your point. I am sorry my inartful post made it look as if I were disagreeing.

As you expounded on your thoughts, I see we are in agreement about a lot of aspects of immigration and diversity.

Trey

Penny said...

Trey, your prose was perfectly artful. I wasn't disagreeing with you at all. I just didn't want to go down the political right or left of it, because frankly, I get enough of that elsewhere.

Blake, just a few things to say about the LA statistics. First, I am assuming they don't include illegals who are primarily from Mexico.

The second thing, which I alluded to in my first comment to Troop, is that in most other places, like Miami or NYC for example, Hispanic covers a WIDE range of Spanish speaking nations like Cuba, Puerto Rico, Mexico, Guatamala and Costa Rica etc. I am not sure that is the case in LA so much. Is it?

I happen to live close to one of the worst cities in the country for crime. Primarily you have your black folks and your mostly Puerto Rican hispanic folks, in smaller numbers, but growing. The black people seem to treat the hispanics like they feel they were treated by the white people who have nearly been driven out of the city.

It seems to me that the lines of difference are much deeper and wider when you only have two of "whatever". Not unlike our political parties really.

Penny said...

Troop said, "Some of my commenters are among the biggest dicks on the internet."

Pics please. :)

Just kidding! lol Full body avatars will be just fine. ;)

Trooper York said...

Penny I said they "were among the biggest dicks on the internet" not that they "had the biggest dicks on the internet."

That is a distinction with a differance.

A very big differance.