The one girl who is a decent production assistant is Maggie who is supposed to be the talent assistant. She is supposed to help us as we are working on the set up. I don't have time to do all the stuff I normally do like go get coffee or my dry cleaning or get stamps or whatever. So she is supposed to do it. But since she is the only one with anything on the ball they have her doing everything. Driving the van. Going to storage. Standing outside and stopping people from coming in or getting them to sign a release before they come in.
Now they have a black girl named Crystal who is very cool. She is tall and thin and looks pretty tough to me. So there is no reason why she can't stand outside and handle the door. So I am talking to one of these super liberal producer girls and go "Hey why can't Crystal handle the door. You should give her the gig. Tell the truth. It's because she is black. What are you guy's fucking racists?'"
I almost made her cry.
It was a joke but it is really true though. It is the bigotry of lowered expectations. I mean I talk to Crystal like I talk to all the low level workers on this shoot. This girl is smarter and tougher than half of the big shot producers who have a fuckin' big title and a job because they know somebody. Crystal can do a lot. She is very capable. I want her on the front door.
I mean she would cut a bitch.
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You can't damage their fragile liberal egos like that, Troop.
Scars them! Scars, I say!!!
She is tall and thin and looks pretty tough to me.
A tower of glower?
I'd say my ego was hardly fragile.
Michelle is so beautiful, she should smile more though. Reverse racism is a wrong as full frontal.
Yeah, the First Wookie is beautiful. Right.
EYE BLEACH STAT!
I don't think you would treat people the way these big shot Hollywood liberals do Allie. I know you would treat Crystal like a person just the way I do.
I just love to bust them on their pretentious bullshit.
Troop, no Hollywood I'm not , jus a nice small town Wisconsin girl.
Pretense is always bullshit. The best way to hold a person back from success is to not trust them to do the job. It's not doing anyone any favors coddling them and making excuses for them, tell your producers , Allie from Wisconsin, the liberal says so.
So there.
That's why we get along you magnificent commie you!
And it is why you are here instead of some other nasty noxious swamp of deluded fools.
Just sayn'
Liberals don't get it. They are dumber than bagful of rocks. Crushed rocks. Buried in the ground.
If you had said to the muckety-mucks, "That girl is black. The only place she can work in my store is as the keeper of the door," they would have gone berserk, calling you a racist.
To say that, because she's black, she can't be the keeper of the door, is equally racist. Both positions limit someone's abilities and opportunities based on race. It's just one is condescending and "compassionate," since (snark alert) those people need our help.
I hate liberals (at least that brand).
The thing was they don't recognize what they have in this girl. I think it is because she is quiet and has a lot of dignity. And they are scared of her. Me...I just went up to her and introduced myself and started talking to her. So I got to know that she has a good head on her shoulders and that I would want her on my team.
It is both a class and a race thing though. The mucky mucks only talk to their own kind.
They suck. Just sayn'
So am I a different flavor liberal? Most of my liberal friends who are real and honest, wouldn't keep a black girl from doing a menial job, if that was in her in her job description.
Most of my staff in the hospitals and nursing homes especially, were minority. They knew what their job was and did it. I would help them out when I saw they were swamped and they did the same for me in the capacity they were allowed. BUT I never offered to do their job for them and I expected them to do their jobs well.
Windbag, I think most liberals get it. But hey, far be it from me to try to convince you.
Trooper I bet she appreciated it. The roughest ,scariest, black girls were always my best buddies, they want to be treated with respect, most do not expect different treatment, well that is my experience anyway.
It's amazing how people project their prejudice and preconceived stereotypes on others. I worked with a woman who was drop-dead gorgeous. One of the most beautiful women I've ever seen in my life. People who attend school with her were constantly talking about how stuck up she was, because she was so good looking. After working with her about a month, I discovered that she was shy. Really shy. That's why she didn't talk much, not because she was stuck up. She was a very nice lady.
That's why I say that racism and other forms of discrimination are cowardly. People make assumptions based on whatever group they want to lump someone into, rather than take the time to get to know the individual. It takes guts to say, "You know, after working with you the past couple of weeks, I've come to the conclusion that you are a shit head. Stay away from me." It's cowardly to hide behind a stereotype and dismiss someone.
(There are exceptions to that. For instance, Miami Dolphin fans are shit heads. And Red Sox fans. And most Democrats. Almost all liberals. Hippies. PETA losers. Wives of losing quarterbacks in the Super Bowl. There are probably some I've missed, but aside from them, it's generally not a good thing to dismiss entire groups.)
OK, I'm going to indulge in dismissing a group of people, maybe it's most Hollywood or entertainment liberals that give the rest of us down to earth liberals a bad reputation.
So if they don't have her on the door did they at least let her bring her shine box and be useful that way?
Tommy DeVito: I don't shine shoes no more, Billy.
Billy Batts: I was just kiddin' witchya.
Now go home and get your f****** shine box!
Allie, I live near plenty of Democrats, most of whom are NOT liberals. The terms really aren't interchangeable. I love them dearly. We value most of the same things, just disagree on how to accomplish the ideals of society.
However, liberals, in my experience do not get it. They have neither logic nor morals as a basis for their positions, which results in the utter hypocrisy we see, especially in the MSM.
Liberals' mantra is the childish whine: that's not fair! No, life isn't fair. The young family we know, whose 2-year old is fighting leukemia for the second time in her short life got short-changed. Life sucks. It's hard. But, there are absolutes that liberals want to ignore. Property rights, the right to self-defense, the right to pinch a loaf without being judged, the right to eat pizza with veggies on it...you know what I mean.
(Sorry if that sounds preachy. I didn't mean to, but that's the way I come across a lot of the time.)
Ricpic, whoa. I almost called you the R word, should I have?
Be my guest, Allie. I'm so past caring you wouldn't believe.
Windbag, maybe it's a regional thing, but most Wisconsin Democrats are liberals, or Progressives or a combo of both. I consider myself a bit of each and a bit of an independent.
I think down south there are more blue dog Democrats, am II right?
The thing is Allie is you were a worker in the real world. Not in academia or the arts or the journalism bubble. You take people as they are for the content of the character and not the color of their skin. You see a lot of this is class based as well. You see this girl comes from the Toe and is not all that well spoken. But she is damn smart and I want her as part of my team. Standing at the door is not a menial task. It is one of the most important ones on this shoot. You have to talk to my customers who want to come in to shop in a diplomatic and sensible way so they don't get mad. I trust Crystal to do that. She is tough and smart. I want to use her for a lot more in this shoot. That's the difference between me and you and the rest of these artsy fartsy cocksuckers. They talk a good game but they are full of shit. That's why when I call them on this they lose their fuckin' minds. It happens all the time.
Ricpic, no I won't, I think that it was a joke in poor taste, that's all.
I won't throw the first stone, I live in a glass house.
When you are on my team I will fight for you until the last dog dies.
Of course if you are not I wouldn't piss on you if you were on fire. Just sayn'
Hey ricpic is not just a Republican. He is a happy go lucky hebe.
That's why we love him.
Plus he is one of the best poets this side of Charley Bukowski.
That reminds me. We need more Panda sex photos.
That reminds me. We need more Panda sex photos.
Isn't spinelli supposed to be getting you exclusives?
He said he was staking out the San Diego zoo but so far no photo's.
Oh heck I love him like a little brother, just scolding him a bit, like a big sister, I might have to spank him too.
Hey cut out the flirting. You are gonna get him all excited. He loves a
good spanking.
But then don't we all. Just sayn'
Haven't been to the zoo yet. My daughter shot a big zebra boner last year..it was on her Facebook page
Trooper's right. A lot depends on your environment. Academia losers and journalist losers are in a mutual-admiration society that rewards commie bullshit.
Allie, yes, bluedog Dems. I had a cook back in 2004 who was interested in politics, but didn't know where to start. His family was blue dog Democrat through and through. Instead of talking about candidates and parties, we talked about issues.
I'd ask him what he thought about abortion, gay marriage, the war in Iraq, pinching loaves in public, welfare, whatever else was the hot topic of the day. 100% of the time, he chose the Republican position as his own. Then I would tell him what the Republican and Democrat positions were. He just shook his head in disbelief. In the end, he could not bring himself to pull the lever for Bush, because of political parties. Sad.
And that is largely is wrong in today's political climate. Party over ideology.
You're okay for a commie, because you think and apply common sense. The ultra-lefties don't. The higher ups in the Dem party think nothing like the rank and file Dems, but they control the agenda.
@Allie
I think most liberals get it.
No, I don't think they do or there wouldn't be millions of minority children trapped in failed schools. Why do liberals fight vouchers and charter schools, even when test schools are proved successful?
I really think the most cowardly act of Obama's presidency is when he refused to extend vouchers for black students in DC, some of whom were a semester away from graduation.
Over the past 30-40 years we've thrown enough money at the problem to put them all through Harvard...yet the black community has a youth unemployment rate of 50%.
What cannot continue, will not.
I think we need to continue to try to improve public schools. I think its much more than just the school or the teachers, it's the students themselves and the lack of parental interest, piss poor parenting and or abuse, neglect issues.
I'm not against vouchers, but why should the tax burden be even greater? Why must tax payers pay to send children to private schools? What of the kids that don't get the vouchers?
I know several excellent teachers in the Milwaukee public school system, they are frustrated beyond belief, they pay for supplies out of their own pockets, they do their best, but if the student doesn't have a support system or a mentor of some sort, it's almost impossible to get some of these kids to pass the grade. Yet the teacher is held totally responsible for the kids failures.
One of my daughters actually worked on some legislation to improve Milwaukee schools and make teachers more accountable, I do think that thee are some teachers who do not deserve to keep their jobs. Unions could improve in this area. The burden of guilt in the failures of the kids, doesn't rest solely on the teacher, IMO.
I don't know what the answer is , but I don't think Vouchers and Charter schools are the only answer either.
I broke my own rule of not discussing politics here, yikes, now I'm in for it.
I think we need to continue to try to improve public schools.
The public schools have been going to hell since before I was born. How long before we admit failure? How many generations of idiots do we produce in service of the noble goal of universal education?
I think its much more than just the school or the teachers, it's the students themselves and the lack of parental interest, piss poor parenting and or abuse, neglect issues.
Let's accept that premise: How can public schooling address these issues? That's a rhetorical question, to be followed with up with "If public schooling can address these issues using the suggested approach, why hasn't it, given decades of failure?" Then followed with "Are you sure that it can?" And then, "If you're sure that it can, why hasn't it, and what is a realistic plan for changing that, after 40-50 years of failure?"
I'm not against vouchers, but why should the tax burden be even greater?
Fully capitalized costs per student in the LA City School district are between $20,000-$25,000/year. We could divert 1/4 of that to vouchers, provide better educations to kids and reduce the tax burden.
Why must tax payers pay to send children to private schools?
Why must tax payers pay to send children to PUBLIC schools that fail to educate?
What of the kids that don't get the vouchers?
I'm not sure what mechanism you're referring to that allows every kid to go to public school but not every kid to receive a voucher.
I know several excellent teachers in the Milwaukee public school system, they are frustrated beyond belief, they pay for supplies out of their own pockets, they do their best, but if the student doesn't have a support system or a mentor of some sort, it's almost impossible to get some of these kids to pass the grade. Yet the teacher is held totally responsible for the kids failures.
There's a wonderful place in Philadelphia called "The Institute for the Achievement of Human Potential" (iahp.org) which works with brain-injured kids and advocates homeshcooling for young children. I've been fortunate enough to visit a couple of times.
One of the first things you learn is that it's not some huge disgrace that teachers aren't able to teach, it's a miracle that they're able to teach at all.
Every child of different ability and interest (and these days, language and cultural background) and yet somehow they're expected to convey cookie-cutter information to them all.
The problem is that our school system was designed by industrialists with an interest in making complacent, compliant factory workers, and now has morphed into a jobs program for people with no real marketable skills.
One of my daughters actually worked on some legislation to improve Milwaukee schools and make teachers more accountable, I do think that thee are some teachers who do not deserve to keep their jobs. Unions could improve in this area. The burden of guilt in the failures of the kids, doesn't rest solely on the teacher, IMO.
Of course not. But you can't really expect the administrators to admit they're just siphoning off resources to line their own nests while throwing the teachers to the wolves, can you?
Here in California the CSU system has reached a perfect 1:1 ratio. For every teacher in the system, there is an administrator.
I don't know what the answer is , but I don't think Vouchers and Charter schools are the only answer either.
I believe that most problems become worse when you make them collective problems. When you do that, you still have the original problem, and on top of that you have problems of conflicting goals and politics.
Think about it: Evolution, sex education, politics, economics, history, [fill-in-the-blank] studies—if parents in Berkeley can send their kids to a school that teaches heteronormative white-male-European-based history (or as it used to be called "history"), and parents in Missouri can send their kids to Noam-Chomsky-was-right lesbian-dominated school, then there's no problem.
People get to choose, and it's nobody's business WHAT they choose.
Make it collective and we all have to give a flying fuck all of a sudden. And then we all have to conform, because conformity is important above all. (See the current issue with the birth control and the Catholic Church.)
I broke my own rule of not discussing politics here, yikes, now I'm in for it.
Indeed. And I wrote so much it had to be in two posts. There's a flamewarrior character for that guy.
OK I'll bite one more time, it's NOT the responsibility of public schools or charter schools to raise the child. It's the parents, BUT , what if the parent is not capable? What if the parent is brain injured or psychologically damaged themselves, do we take the children away and place them somewhere or do we leave them with the crappy parent and do the best we can as modern society? Are we at least a tiny little bit our brothers keepers?
Oh hell, I bet we all have debated this difference in the liberal and conservative philosophy hundreds of times, it's a fundamental difference in how we view the world. We never change anyone's mind.
Maybe it's how our brains are wired, hey Ritmo?
I'm glad that despite our differences in political matters we all can respect one another here on a different level.
I mean to say that I respect your political philosophy,most times, but don't agree it's the only way to skin the cat.
Are we at least a tiny little bit our brothers keepers?
If we are not free to define the "we" we are a part of, then we're not being so much our brother's keeper as we are somebody's slave.
It helps to remember that every government law/regulation/mandate is the equivalent of putting a gun to someone's head. It's an important perspective.
Just imagine that gun pointed at your head and someone yelling "Be your brother's keeper!"
(Or "fasten your seatbelt" or "buy health insurance" or "don't eat trans-fats".)
Liberals never see that perspective, even though one of their own said "Political power grows from the barrel of a gun."
I mean to say that I respect your political philosophy,most times, but don't agree it's the only way to skin the cat.
"Doesn't matter how you skin the cat, the cat don't like it." Jed Clampett
OK I'll bite one more time, it's NOT the responsibility of public schools or charter schools to raise the child. It's the parents, BUT , what if the parent is not capable?
Allie, I'd wager that precious few are incapable. Unwilling, yes. Lots of us had terrible parents, for whatever reason. My mom suffered from horrible depression. I watched her have a nervous breakdown when I was four. Believe me, that'll scare the shit out of a little kid. The only thing that helped her was electro-shock therapy. For the opponents of the practice, I'd like to spend about ten minutes relating the hell she existed as opposed to the relative calm after being zapped. As dysfunctional as the environment I grew up in was, I still learned to work my ass off, not cheat people, and be nice to assholes who don't deserve it.
But, I digress.
Lots of parents these days are unwilling to be parents. The faults are too numerous to name. You are exactly right when you say it's not the responsibility of the schools. It's not. So...what do we do?
Let them fail.
If people know that someone else will pick up their slack, they will shirk their responsibility. I know that you worked with enough people like that throughout your career, whether it was other nurses, doctors, administrators, or the housekeeping staff. People will goof off if someone else will fulfill their duties.
That sounds harsh, but hear one more anecdote, please. I employ a woman, who has actually become a supervisor for me. She was a crack head when she was hired. She lost her kids. That didn't stop her addiction or her dealing (which was what she was eventually arrested for).
Even after DSS took away her kids, she kept it up. Until they got in her face and told her straight up, "YOU WILL LOSE YOUR PARENTAL RIGHTS AND NOT SEE YOUR KIDS AGAIN," she wouldn't stop. When they said that, she stopped. She's never looked back. Now, she's taking classes to become a counselor herself.
The point is, the worst segments of society are as bad as we allow them to be and as responsible as the rest of us hold them.
My mom did the best she could. She couldn't do better. My employee did what she could get away with until someone held her to a higher standard.
Heartless conservatism, I know.
Windbag, I'm no a bleeding heart type, those who are capable should not be coddled or given a free pass.
I do believe some people can be rehabilitated, by doing it themselves or with the help of society. BUT the reality is that some have so damaged themselves and their children that the damage is irreversible. What do we do with these people?
I've taken care of them in Pysch wards and long term care facilities, too far gone. Their children damaged, low IQ due to lead paint poisoning, neurological damage due to Mama's crack habit when pregnant, how about the ones who have had their brains rattled one too many times by Mama's boyfriend?
I worked with a CNA whose mother used to pack up the three kids, put them in a dumpster near her bar, with strict instructions to not come out until she came to get them, because she didn't want to get in trouble for leaving them in the car or home alone. Then this alcoholic excuse of a mother kicked her 13 year old daughter onto the streets because she was impregnated by being raped nightly by Mama's boyfriend. The only child that survived that childhood was the 13 year old, the other two siblings are dead.
After working with people from the inner city of Milwaukee, I have heard even worse, but man similar stories.
Sometimes the damage to the child is just too great, what should we as a society do?
I still say let them fail. Social services should step in and remove the kids who are in danger. I know they can't be everywhere, but if we trimmed back other unnecessary and enabling entitlement spending, we would have enough to fund the essential government agencies.
And many of the unnecessary and enabling entitlement programs are the ones that encourage and allow the losers to abandon their responsibilities. I can't say it enough: let people fail.
Failure will eventually motivate people to strive for success. Missing a few meals will motivate lazy people to get a job. Our ancestors have been migrating and innovating for thousands of years in an effort to better their condition. Why encourage the halt to that process?
Let them fail. Take their kids away from them to protect the innocent, but let them suffer and fail until they wake up and start producing and stop consuming.
@Allie
Thanks for the reply...I agree with most of what you say, and there are many reasons it's broken, but education is firmly in the liberal/Dem political wheelhouse.
Not fixing it is really not an option as supporting the millions of unproductive or under employed adults resulting from the current mess will dwarf the costs of fixing the system now.
I am a naturally optimistic person...a glass half full type...but for the first time in my adult life I am not optimistic about our future.
:::donning rose-colored glasses:::
Okay, pass that blunt and let's get back to slagging she-who-shall-not-be-named.
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